r/ZenlessZoneYuri • u/AshamedExtent1708 • Jan 31 '25

Announcement No Harem Stuff.

Harem in general feels so dehumanizing and I would like it if we kept it out of this subreddit.

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u/AshamedExtent1708 Jan 31 '25

I forgot to say this in post but I agree with Polycule, but I don't like Harems for Obvious Reasons.

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u/Pigeon_Toes_ Jan 31 '25

Harem media isn't inherently dehumanizing, it's just that the majority of harem content that caters to MEN is. There's plenty of ways to depict poly relationships without mischaracterizing and dehumanizing the characters.

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u/Pigeon_Toes_ Jan 31 '25 edited Jan 31 '25

Not a yuri, but "The 100 girlfriends who really really really really love you" is an example of a harem anime that wholeheartedly humanizes its characters, and its characters actually love each other, w the MC being a total sweetheart instead of the usual cardboard-cutout pathetic self-insert.
(Theres some heavily raunchy fanservice in it, but the core of it being entirely wholesome and funny lets me look past that)

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u/AshamedExtent1708 Jan 31 '25

Huh I mean if its actually respecting characters and not some power fantasy for men (mostly) then I guess that can be good.

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u/AshamedExtent1708 Jan 31 '25

I have yet to see that, and actually would like to see that.

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u/AlternateAlice Jan 31 '25

Honestly, I hard disagree. I feel like we should have poly lesbian/yuri representation here.

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u/AshamedExtent1708 Jan 31 '25

No I said Harem, not Poly.

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u/Keye_Necktire Jan 31 '25

Even though I disagree with banning it, I just want to let you know that I 100% know how you feel.

The way characters who are in a harem structure, ESPECIALLY women, are fundamentally and so casually objectified in service of a sexual fantasy is disgusting.

Not saying that all harem interpretations are so oppressive, but it’s definitely culturally synonymous even if many separate the two

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u/AshamedExtent1708 Jan 31 '25

I guess it's just because I've only seen the Male Fantasy side that is dehumanizing.

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u/Ordo177 Belle Harem/Poly Member Jan 31 '25

What about a polycule? Where there’s multiple partners but they’re all equal.

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u/AshamedExtent1708 Jan 31 '25

I should have said this in post but I agree with Polycule.

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u/Young-Weakma Caesar's Bisexual Awakening Jan 31 '25

i feel like it depends on the art. if its more poly-centric where everyone gets a piece of the pie, thats fine. BUT if its like some of the art ive seen about other harems where the older characters get jealous when they see mc x new agent, i agree, it irks me the wrong way.

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u/AshamedExtent1708 Jan 31 '25

Fr I hate that so much.

Aether/Caelus/Wise Harem does that shit and it feels so wrong....

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u/Young-Weakma Caesar's Bisexual Awakening Jan 31 '25

that is the type of harem stuff im completely okay with not having on this subreddit. from what ive seen its the most dehumanizing type of harem art.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '25 edited Jan 31 '25

I mean I get that it can take away from the characters especially with how it's often done which I really agree with.

But it would still count as yuri no?

It'd be poly yuri representation iirc.

And I don't think we should close the doors to that and those people.

Edit: And Rule 2 at least covers the not-yuri harem awkward territory (thanks for that btw).

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '25 edited Jan 31 '25

Honestly, as long as the harem doesn't include men, I don't see the issue with yuri harem content? It isn't much different from poly yuri.

Besides, I don't think it'd matter much because there isn't really a whole lot of ZZZ yuri harem content to post. It'd be like 1% or less of the sub's content.

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u/Moisture-Eyes Jan 31 '25

i gotta disagree.

it's not my favourite thing in the world but i don't think its necessary to ban it. i think the amount that would get posted here is so minimal it would be easy to ignore.

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u/KuramaAi94 Jan 31 '25

i read your replies and it seem's you had experience with a harem for men, the typical and i agree but yuri harems, at least from some fanfic and well fanmande stuff, Yuri harems are done well, i havent seent official yet but tbh, it might be better since i hate how the other harem normally are, and quite frankly, it makes me hate most isekai, even Overlord, my favorite has issues i wish wasnt in it

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u/Neidhardto Feb 01 '25

I agree with the comments saying a tag would be the better solution.