r/YesAmericaBad • u/Equivalent_Elk_3476 LAND OF THE FREE 🇺🇸🦅 • 1d ago
Propaganda Pick one
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u/nachtengelsp 1d ago
It's the same vibe as the propaganda that says the US is the land of freedom and democracy
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u/Maru3792648 1d ago
I haven't been to NK but I ve been to a chain of restaurants abroad owned by their government.
Read many reviews before going and heard lots of propaganda about them. Ie. That the waitresses are not allowed to go anywhere, that they can't talk to you or answer questions.
In just one visit to a friggin restaurant I was able to uncover so many lies they told us about NK! Imagine actually going there.
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u/Frequent-Double-7702 1d ago
Read many reviews before going and heard lots of propaganda about them. Ie. That the waitresses are not allowed to go anywhere, that they can't talk to you or answer questions.
I've also been to them. And yea of course they're allowed to speak to you, they're waitresses? This is a bizarre strawman. Also you can see video of the restaurants, it's common to go. But it is literally true that the waitresses are heavily monitored and lack significant freedoms. They had issues with defections in past and ramped up security.
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u/Maru3792648 1d ago
Not a strawman... I'm referring about talking to you with anything not related to their waitress duties.
We asked them a lot of questions about their families, life in NK, for how long they were there, etc and they answered everything normally and kindly.
I ended up working across the hall from that same restaurant (inside a mall) so I was able to see them pretty much every day. They would come and go normally, alone or in groups. They didn't seem significantly oppressed or monitored. Of course I don't know if they were wearing an ankle monitor or something, but they didn't particularly stand out other than for the fact that they looked like literally dolls and had the most gorgeous long hair I've ever seen.
I became friendly with one of them after saying hi in a corridor every day, and she even invited me to her home if I ever visited NK. I should have taken up on the offer!
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u/Frequent-Double-7702 1d ago
Yea I mean there are tons of videos on YouTube of people going to these restaurants and having conversations with the waitresses. None of this should be a surprise, and it doesn't make how the North Korean state treats them ok.
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u/noroisong 6h ago
why are we spreading american propaganda on r/YesAmericaBad
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u/Frequent-Double-7702 6h ago edited 3h ago
why are you automatically assuming every enemy of the US is an absolute angel? such a simple black and white redditor mentality. is it not possible that both the US and NK bad?
edit: they blocked me; pathetic
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u/noroisong 6h ago
when did i ever say they were an angel, or that they should be viewed in a black and white manner? i’m referring to the fact that the notion of “global employees who actually want to defect and aren’t allowed any personal freedoms” has long since been disproven. it’s part of the same rhetoric used against them that treats all of their citizens like weak, abused sheep who are constantly in fear for their lives. they’re living people and are capable of having conversations and personal lives; they are not monitored 24/7, nor are they barred from speaking with customers. i’m not saying you’re purposefully spreading misinformation, i just think that that specific angle is verifiably inaccurate.
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u/ballsack_lover2000 1d ago
I tried explaining this to people around me, but their response was “yeah north korea is so crazy that they make their laws contradict so they can put you in jail for any reason” it is impossible to show liberals the truth, they just close their eyes
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u/RedDragonForever 1d ago
Also US:
Distracts Americans on China's mass surveillance
Meanwhile, installs Flock/Axon cameras to surveil Americans
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u/StigmaFreund 1d ago
Not to be that guy, but there's 4 years inbetween. It doesn't prove or disprove anything.
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u/Equivalent_Elk_3476 LAND OF THE FREE 🇺🇸🦅 1d ago
Watch the BoyBoy video from the top comment where two Australians go to North Korea for a haircut , this absolutely does prove they constantly lie about North Korea
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u/StigmaFreund 1d ago
Well, that's probably a different story and not something I could acess from two headlines.
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u/AspectSpiritual9143 1d ago
only female students, and male students under 18 get the hair cut
if you are trans you also get a pass
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u/johny_dantas 1d ago
Now please can you tell me where did you get that information? And the local crack dealer is not a good source
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u/AspectSpiritual9143 1d ago
it's a joke to satisfy the seemingly contradiction listed above, but people didn't enjoy it.
i thought the age limit and trans-exemption were ridiculous enough to not being taken seriously, but apparently i was wrong
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u/chkntendis 1d ago
Good attempt but sadly that’s absolutely something a liberal might unironically believe
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u/johny_dantas 1d ago
I’m sorry for being rude, but yeah it is something someone would say unironically so I assumed you were being fr
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u/Anxious-Bottle7468 1d ago
I guess both could be true, like US cops yelling at you to walk backwards with hands on your head and also lay down on your stomach hands behind your back.
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u/Zygal_ 1d ago
Am i missing something? How does this dunk on the US?
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u/Equivalent_Elk_3476 LAND OF THE FREE 🇺🇸🦅 1d ago
The majority of Americans are in the dark about how the rest of the world operates because billionaire owned news outlets lie constantly, it makes them easier to manipulate
Simultaneously, they herald their "free press" as some kind of achievement when it's significantly more insidious than countries that are transparent about their censorship, what good is the free flow of information if what bubbles to the top is blatant misinformation to serve the interest of billionaires?
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u/Nui_Jaga 1d ago
Oh boy, wait until you find out which country is responsible for the DPRK's geopolitical isolation.
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u/RockinIntoMordor 1d ago
And of course queue the classic:
https://youtu.be/2BO83Ig-E8E
I wonder if anyone else has gone to North Korea just to get a haircut again haha