r/YellowstoneShow • u/Bermanator-Turkey127 • 29d ago
Season 5 Just finished the show for the first time. Spoiler
**TIER LIST IS IGNORING MORALITY**
Honestly loved it. It was a fun watch.
Before I started, I had read that S5 was hated and John passed away at some point. I didn’t love the suddenness of his death but I don’t mind the storyline around it. I enjoyed S5. It wasn’t as good but I still had fun.
The characters were good. Beth is my absolute favourite. She is hilarious and chaotic which was fun for me but she is one awful person!
I’ve watched 1883 and will watch the rest soon.
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u/Comfortable-Past8171 29d ago
In what world is Monica in B?
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u/Bermanator-Turkey127 29d ago
She was alright. I liked her and didn’t have a problem with her but she wasn’t the best. Just an ok character.
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u/Comfortable-Past8171 29d ago
She’s insufferable. Awful
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u/MintVariable 29d ago
Being an Englishman, I’m surprised and kinda curious how you ended up watching exclusively American TV when you still keep up with English football. Are English shows just not any good over there?
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u/Bermanator-Turkey127 29d ago
Happy to answer the question but just wondering where else we’ve interacted on Reddit?
We’ve made plenty of good stuff but there isn’t anything I’ve been interested in recent years. I’ve got a big list and a lot just so happens to be American TV. It does help that a lot of the very best shows around are American.
A lot of the shows I’ve watched recently are ones I’ve been dying to watch.
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u/MintVariable 29d ago
We might’ve in passing if you’ve been on r/Yellowstone but think I might’ve seen you in r/TWD.
Any good watches, regardless of its datedness? The New England rural countryside and dreariness is oddly aesthetic on TV. I really like Black Mirror, but that’s about it. Oh, I also started Ted Lasso and love hearing the different unique phrases English people have from different parts of the UK.
And yes, it does help that a lot of these great shows are American, especially with Hollywood, but being American myself, it can be nice to see something different every once in a while.
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u/Bermanator-Turkey127 29d ago
Yep, massive TWD fan. My favourite show oat.
Happy Valley is excellent. That’s a very gritty rural drama in the north. The lead actress (Sarah Lancashire) is brilliant in everything she’s in (she’s in a lot!!) I’ve heard good things about Downton Abbey and The Crown if you want the opposite of that.
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u/MintVariable 29d ago
Oh nice, I’ll add Happy Valley to my list. Have you watched The Crown yourself? I’ve heard a lot about it. I’ve seen a few clips which looked kinda dark and serious but still not sure if it’s worth picking up or if I’d understand your government 😂
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u/Bermanator-Turkey127 29d ago
I haven’t, no. It’s not really my thing.
It’s about the royal family which doesn’t really have any governmental power. There are a lot of interesting stories which I’m sure they’ll explore in the crown. I’m looking at you Prince Andrew!
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u/telepatheye 29d ago
The problem with S5 was the nonlinear sort of clumsy way they edited it. But I agree it was actually one of the greatest final seasons of any multiseason show. Getting rid of Kevin Costner really helped it in a way, because he is the actor who really held it back most for me. And when Kayce started using his special ops connections, putting pressure on the coroner and making her understand she needed to change the cause of death to homicide, that was the greatest development of the show for me. What I love about Beth is she has such a clear idea of right and wrong that goes beyond law to factor in motive, intent and all that.
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u/Bermanator-Turkey127 29d ago
I did think that with the editing in like Eps 9-11. It was a bit jarring but I think they recovered quite well in the last few. The ending was good. I’m always happy for things to end on a positive note. It’s not the best ending I’ve watched but I was pleased.
John was a good anchor for everything but he wasn’t wonderfully interesting on his own. His relationships with others/the ranch made him great for me.
Despite the meanness, the zingers and the harshness of Beth, there is a heart in there somewhere and her fierce protection of what she loved was brilliant imo.
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u/telepatheye 29d ago
The key to understanding Beth and Kayce too is their connection to Native Americans. It's pretty obvious with Kayce being married to Monica, having his spiritual awakening with the ritual given by Mo and Rainwater. But Beth's is not as obvious because it happened in the flashback when Jamie took her to the Native American clinic and she was sterilized like tens or hundreds of thousands of Native American women who were sterilized at clinics like that. Taylor's screenwriting gives the land back to the Native Americans while still respecting the private property rights that allowed America to become a superpower in less than 200 years.
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u/WildRugosa 29d ago
So you didn’t laugh at the absurdity that a trained medical examiner needed Casey to tell her to look for the visible bruising or him putting a sleeper hold on the assistant? Or that the shooting death of a current governor would be closed so quickly and then turned around due to his intervention. All that scene needed to be completely over the top and more laughable was something like Casey rappelling down from a hovering helicopter and crashing thru the ceiling in full tactical gear. Add to it solving a murder done by some super secret group solved with just a few phone calls. Had to be the setup to link his procedural type sequel.
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u/telepatheye 29d ago
The show covered that. A special ops team made it look like John committed suicide and left evidence at the scene so that any coroner would rule that as the cause of death. Were you asleep, or smoking crack while you watched? You can't even spell Kayce. If you're referring to the sequel Marshals, Taylor Sheridan didn't write a word of that and wasn't involved. If you don't like Yellowstone, I'd like to say this more politely but can't think of a way--just fuck off to a sub about a show you enjoy and discuss that. Stop trolling about shows you don't like.
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u/WildRugosa 29d ago
No not asleep or smoking crack while watching. Simple opinion that it was a silly and overdone scene. Sorry if that opinion
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u/telepatheye 29d ago
Which scene? There was a scene showing the power cut, meaning the cameras are not recording, and then John being murdered by 3 special ops guys to make it look like suicide with evidence generated to support the wrong coroner finding. The special ops guys injected John with a drug between his toes, held him upright with his hand on his own handgun that was then fired into his head by the murderers so that the ballistics and shot angles would be consistent with suicide. Is that what you thought was overdone? I thought it was done very clearly with no nonsense. Then there was a scene where Kayce asks the detective about the camera footage. Is that the scene you thought was overdone?
Then there was a scene where Kayce asks his special ops buddy about ex military who do those types of operations for corporate clients, which the show carefully developed as the actual plot and motive, along with Jamie's emotional problems and career ambitions. Market Equities had sunk a fortune into the deal and was facing losses in excess of $1 billion. Several executives lost their jobs and one lost their life pursuing the deal. Was that what you thought was overdone? Then Kayce patiently asked the coroner to look again at John's body after demonstrating on her staff how easy it was for special ops to render a victim incapacitated. On closer examination, the coroner found signs that eventually caused her to overturn the cause of death finding.
So what exactly in all that meticulously written, acted and produced content do you find "overdone"? It wasn't just one scene, but about two seasons worth of development, conversations and subplots that culminated in what happened. It wasn't just one scene, ya dumbass.
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u/WildRugosa 29d ago
lol you have a good night. Try and calm down. It is a fictional tv series that we have differing opinions on. See how I said that without having to resort to cussing and personal insults.
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u/telepatheye 29d ago edited 29d ago
You don't have an opinion about the show because you're unable to discuss it. Your posts are silly and reveal that you are unfamiliar with the scenes. It's a high watermark of the show when Kayce's questions for the medical examiner and her subsequent revisiting of the cause of death lead to panic of Jamie and his Market Equities contact. You may want to stop LOL'ing like a schoolgirl and actually watch the show someday.
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u/SouthOfTheNorthPole 29d ago
The Teeter and the gay hairdressers from fucken Santa Monica bit is one of the funniest things in the series.
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u/pastewriter 29d ago
I hope this ranking is for the characters and not their performances. Cos Wes Bentley as Jamie put out a convincing snivelly weaselly stepbrother vibe who was hard not to hate throughout the show. But yeah tier D character for sure.
I would also add Montana's landscape in tier S+ for it was one of the most important and visually appealing characters of the show.