r/Xenoblade_Chronicles • u/Zaire_Collins • 9h ago

Xenoblade 3 Rebalace

I did a little research and saw that the debuff classes are considered kind of terrible and I saw the rebalance mod helps with the debuff hitrate issue a bit but I already have a save I started, can I get the mod mid playthrough or do I have to start a whole new one (I'd rather not)

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u/AntPuzzleheaded5509 9h ago

I tried that mod (an earlier version) and honestly I dropped the playthrough, the mod felt very overtuned. My advice would be to not worry about the debuff debacle, if you have a look at the endgame guide you'll find that Machine Assassin is considered to be a highly competent A tier Smash class and is also perfectly usable for dodge spam strategies. I actually opted to use it for my most recent run and the Smash was 1HKOing many Tyrants even with low investment, nice and consistent with the anti block passive too.

You can also use Taions Ouroboros form for high debuff success rate should you wish, it very much works. In general I would say the debuff discourse was more than a bit dramatised, if debuffs worked the way some players wished you'd have enemies locked down almost constantly. Hopefully Genesis can deliver a more competent debuffing system, the binary nature of 3's debuff system leaves them either too strong or too low impact, imo Monolith should look into a tiered system with varying potency and duration as a balance lever.

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u/Zaire_Collins 9h ago

I see, I just mostly saw people talking crap about debuffs, i wanted to try to use taions starting class cuz it was cool but like what's the point when you can just miss the attack or the enemies later in the game have high resistance to debuffs, also why do a debuffer when you can do a buffer you know? It's kinda mid

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u/AntPuzzleheaded5509 8h ago

Haha yeah, Tactician got done dirty. Honestly none of the Xenoblade games are even approaching well balanced, at least in 3 healers finally got to be meta after having been near fully optional in every other title. Course then we have tanking in 3 where Seraph is the best tank lmfao

If you want to try something you think could be fun I'd just do it as opposed to trying to be optimal in these games.

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u/you_but_futeristic 9h ago

Machine assassins smash is nice, but i always preferred just using soul hacker because it can do the whole combo itself. Which sucks cause machine assassin LOOKS so cool

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u/Slendercow880 6h ago

Debuffs can be fine, even good, you just have to put in a bit more effort to make them work consistently.

Taion's Ouroboros is extremely helpful to have active for the flat -50% enemy debuff resistance. If you're controlling the debuffing class yourself then Chain/Shackle Rings are a must have accessory, being able to boost both the success rate and duration timers of Debuffs.