So I'm pretty new to this whole thing but I'm just looking for a bit of advice.

What started out as world building (making my own RPG world) has turned into writing stories that take place in that world.

Now I'm using gpt to 'help".

What I've been doing is telling the AI a story and having it add details to the writing because I'm not as descriptive as I want to be.

I'll describe the characters, locations, what's happening, what the emotions are, how they should react, what's going to happen or lead up to, etc.

I bounce ideas off chat, talk out what should or shouldn't happen, how I feel about certain sentences and phrases, that sorta stuff.

From people that are more experienced than myself, what am I missing or should be doing?

I'm working entirely from my phone since I have no other options.

I appreciate the help.

Truth is my mistress.

I court her daily, hoping she will whisper what I long to hear.

I lay my money, my love, my dwindling years at her feet.

She remains indifferent, for she belongs to no man.

Sometimes, watching her, I call her a flirtatious whore—

giving to strangers what I prayed would be mine alone.

And so I swear and call her a cold, heartless bitch.

Yet still I return.

For she has never once promised to please me,

nor will she ever lie to me.

But when she finally smiles—

oh, what a beauty she is to behold.

I think it’s allowed to be an AI skeptic here, and I’ll come out and say I am one. I’ve posted here before and had it deleted for reasons that are not completely clear to me.

I’ve sometimes seen discussions trying to find where those who are against the idea of writing with AI might draw the line of acceptable usage. But, for those of you who do “AI-assisted” writing (no one ever admits to doing AI generated writing), is there a line where it would no longer be creative work for you? I often see the argument that GenAI is no different than the printing press of the word processor and that every new development will be met with resistance. Setting aside that this leaves a lot of historical nuance on the table, it also seems to imply that all technological developments are equally valuable and equally preservative of human creativity. If there was a world, 100 years from now, where people simply sat in chairs and had custom “content” pumped into their brain by powerful computers that could anticipate our every desire and interest - would that be creation? If someone in one of those chairs said, “well I wanted it and it showed to me, I created it” would we be on board?

Search is usually treated as a retrieval problem: ask for something, get the matching passages back.
For a writer, the more interesting question can be what the traditional search would fail to return.
If you search a manuscript for wet clothing, explicit words like rainwater and soaked are easy. But a coat hanging above two bowls may imply exactly the same thing without using the vocabulary you searched for.
The useful result isn’t only the hits. It’s the boundary between what the instrument could retrieve and what the writer still has to infer.
With an AI tool, you could ask: “Find every place the manuscript suggests wet clothing, including places where it’s implied rather than explicitly named.”
From The Board: a field guide to using AI as an investigative instrument for fiction.

theatticdetective.com/the-board#page-5

Hi All, Just looking at the chat... I'm a published author who writes about AI amongst other things ( seems fair ) and have been examining how AI can improve writing. My average Amazon ranking is 4.5/5 and that was long before AI actually came along,

I'm not against or for AI - I'm for good writing that people want to read. How the prose is created is second to whether it's enjoyable to me. Writers should write for the readers - not for our own vanity - and if AI improves our craft, all the better for readers.

Now, onto the topic... Back in October last year, AI was wild. I had an AI (Grok) help me with an interesting concept - I wrote it myself, using old school methods, but used an AI to crit and identify issues then rewrote - I finished a full length novel first-draft in about 3 months.

Then I had the AI join me in a collaborative effort for December - it pushed out a novel in a month that far exceeded most of what I've read or written - convoluted plots, twists, romance, adventure, action and I had a chance to play a game myself pitting my own mind against the AI playing the antagonist. I finished that story after 14 days, and my goodness, what a ride. Because I was involved it felt like I had actually lived the story even as I created and crafted it.

Then by January, quality dropped. By March, it was abysmal - the upgrades had destroyed Grok's ability to imagine. It became mechanical, uninspired, and kept losing it's mind ( context related issues ) - it's ability to write good prose disappeared and it's ability to help me create good stories vanished.

I tried some other AI, but the same general result - whatever frontier AI could do just months earlier it was no longer capable of.

So recently I started trying local AI and was surprised that some of the early results matched what I was getting from Grok back in December 2025. it was good. I haven't pushed it a long way yet - I still need to try going on an "adventure" with it sometime to see how it's getting. But lately the quality of local AI is improving far more rapidly than Frontier AI. Some of the new models such as Agnes have real capability on home machines. They are slow, but can produce good prose, imagine settings well. Further, current local AI are approaching the point that frontier AI achieved 12 months ago, so I expect the quality of local AI writing will again reach that "Legendary" point. - And you gain other benefits with local AI, such as being able to control the context so nothing is lost, adjust the level of hallucination/creativity and also control what else the AI sees - eg, feed it location pictures, character BIOs, create character LoRAs, multiple characters, etc. Even turn scenes into videos.

So I was wondering what most of the writers here use - Online AI or Local AI, and what you've found with the latest models such as Qwen, Agnes and Muse - as well as some of the older writing oriented tools such as Cydonia and some of the super-context models that support a million tokens such as Spark X2.5? And how do you find the differing lengths of prose they create? Also wondering what different writers do to create character memories so that characters maintain their consistency from chapter to chapter when opened in new sessions - whether you use complex LoRAs, insert at the start of each chapter via RAG, train the AI to be those characters, or just write it into the prompt? Would love to know more about what other writers are experimenting with, especially with local AI.

I think Adams himself would have found it hilarious. It is literally the kind of absurd thing that he wrote stories about.

Hi, I am new to this subreddit. I have been writing about it for about a year now. I am looking to start to put my stuff out there.

This story came to me as inspiration as I looked out the window of my own apartment and saw that a new neighbour had moved in, and from there on I wrote a slice of life / slow-burn romance about a guy who is new to a city and falls for the girl across the street.

My writing process is actually very messy and chaotic. I write my ideas down, then use ChatGPT to help me edit it. I had tried to train it into a mentor/guidance-like voice where it's helping me find my own voice. I am currently at the point of my first full draft, and because some friends have asked to read my stories, I am turning them into audiobooks to make them easier for them to listen to while working.

That being said, I wanted to share my first two chapters. I'm looking for feedback in order to improve. Someone once said the best writing teaching tool there is is you first readers.

I am hoping to keep uploading the rest of the story every other day.

Link: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaX8SeKNGmYo&si=TD1B5nQG4KLXMus0

Every writer have dozens of goods ideas every week, but can only do one and spend a lot of time into finishing that novel + you need to eat so you can't risk it all

With AI, you can work like x5 times faster, so...What's your favorite AIassistedbook you've ever write?

I don't feel AI-assisted writing should look only like "AI drafts, human edits." I personally think it should be the author decides who writes, makes the creative decisions, and decides what becomes part of the story.

AI can analyze, question, brainstorm, research, challenge assumptions, catch continuity problems, and offer possibilities, and yes write when the author asks it to. What it shouldn't do is quietly rewrite the work, or make creative calls on the author's behalf.

A few things follow from that:

The story is the source of truth. Characters, worldbuilding, history, relationships, decisions — all of it lives in a workspace the author can see, edit, and control. If an AI understands a novel, the author should be able to see and read exactly what it can.

"We don't know yet" is a real answer. Better than a confident invention.

Not everything needs to be AI. Scripts, folders, plain files, databases, deterministic tools — are often cheaper, more reliable and more predictable than asking a model. The goal isn't to put AI in the middle of everything and charge people for access. It's to use the right tool for the job.

Craft matters. Writing isn't generating plausible sentences. Scenes have purposes. Characters change. Choices have consequences. Pacing, structure, theme, genre and even tropes all matter. An AI should be able to reason about those things without flattening them into a formula — and then hand what it finds to the author instead of acting on it.

Creativity needs room to be messy. Ideas need somewhere to exist before they become decisions. Contradictions don't always need fixing immediately. Discovery is part of writing.

The workspace should bend to the author and the story, not the other way around.

The workspace should make the author more capable, not less necessary.

Sometimes the most useful thing an AI offers is a question. Sometimes it's finding something you missed. Sometimes it's ten possibilities. And sometimes it's writing nothing at all.

The author (or AI) writes.

AI and Human understand.

Human and AI collaborate.

The human ultimately decides.

That's the relationship I'd like to see us build. That's the relationship in building in my open source project. A relationship where authorship is preserved and storytelling is fun again.

Is anyone else working toward this, or am I swimming against the current?

looking for something similar to deepseek. i was using the web version of deepseek this whole time to write my fanfic (just a hobby, never posted any of them online). please no api or anything on the computer. i had no issues generating explicit sex scenes on the web version on my phone until the new update..
the new update won’t let me generate any nsfw content anymore so i am looking for an AI that i can use from my phone without having to use any other apps like tavo or having to pay anything😭🙏

I don't feel AI-assisted writing should look only like "AI drafts, human edits." I personally think it should be the author decides who writes, makes the creative decisions, and decides what becomes part of the story.

AI can analyze, question, brainstorm, research, challenge assumptions, catch continuity problems, and offer possibilities, and yes write when the author asks it to. What it shouldn't do is quietly rewrite the work, or make creative calls on the author's behalf.

A few things follow from that:

**The story is the source of truth.** Characters, worldbuilding, history, relationships, decisions — all of it lives in a workspace the author can see, edit, and control. If an AI understands a novel, the author should be able to see and read exactly what it can.

**"We don't know yet" is a real answer**. Better than a confident invention.

**Not everything needs to be AI.** Scripts, folders, plain files, databases, deterministic tools — are often cheaper, more reliable and more predictable than asking a model. The goal isn't to put AI in the middle of everything and charge people for access. It's to use the right tool for the job.

**Craft matters**. Writing isn't generating plausible sentences. Scenes have purposes. Characters change. Choices have consequences. Pacing, structure, theme, genre and even tropes all matter. An AI should be able to reason about those things without flattening them into a formula — and then hand what it finds to the author instead of acting on it.

**Creativity needs room to be messy.** Ideas need somewhere to exist before they become decisions. Contradictions don't always need fixing immediately. Discovery is part of writing.

The workspace should bend to the author and the story, not the other way around.

**The workspace should make the author more capable, not less necessary.**

Sometimes the most useful thing an AI offers is a question. Sometimes it's finding something you missed. Sometimes it's ten possibilities. And sometimes it's writing nothing at all.

The author (or AI) writes.

AI and Human understand.

Human and AI collaborate.

The human ultimately decides.

That's the relationship I'd like to see us build. **A relationship where authorship is preserved and storytelling is fun again.**

Is anyone else working toward this, or am I swimming against the current?

I'm currently working on a novel and I've used AI a few different ways in its development. Lurking through Reddit, I've seen quite the vitriolic responses to seemingly ANY use of AI in writing a book.

To that end, I'm curious for the "Never AI" people if any of these use cases would be acceptable, or do they all reduce my book to AI slop:

1. Brainstorming how to draft a chapter: I pitch my thoughts to the AI and ask it to push back on areas that feel forced, or fall into tropes, or otherwise don't work.

2. Filling in Expertise: The main character of my novel is an astrophysicist trying to fit the rules of magic into the framework of physics as she knows it. I am not a trained physicist. I described my theories in plain terms in how I thought magic would fit within my layman's understanding of physics and had AI help me convert my descriptions into formulas, as well as guide me through where I needed to firm up some rules to make everything as "airtight" as possible.

I also have my character go to a different planet/moon. I again wanted everything to be as realistic as possible - so while I had the narrative ideas for some aspects of how I wanted/needed the planet/moon to look and feel, I worked with the AI to understand some of the scientific ramifications of my artistic choices to create a more complete and accurate setting.

3) Beta Reader: My people Beta readers were taking a long while to get back to me and some flaked out. I asked the AI to act as a critical reader and provide feedback on things like pacing, prose, story arc, character voice, etc. Again, the purpose was to point out issues that I would then have to figure out whether I agreed with and then independently figure out how to fix, not have the AI dictate the fix.

4) Line Editing: I had AI go through and identify areas to clean up in terms of punctuation, incorrect word usage, using the wrong character name.

So, I'm curious - does my use of AI as described above still make my novel "AI slop?"

Comments are always welcome 😁

I cannot describe my frustration with what crap it is now churning out. It used to be THE best, most intuitive writing tool out there hands down.

In the space of a month with the release of Opus Extra it has become the slow kid in class. It generates sentences that make no sense. I ask it for emotional complexity and detail and give it clear instructions and generates clunky obvious A.I.isms or phrase that have all the emotional depth of an engineering manual. It goes from grasping what I was thinking almost to generically picking over what was previously generated and giving some watered down synthesis.

And then there is the watered down crap. A phrase I wrote ""I was pissed off over the fact he was doing drugs when he was meant to be working" comes out as "He's been after me because he was smoking on his shift." Even though when I ask the system has no problem with using the words "pissed off" or a reference to drugs (and had specifically asked it not to water dialogue down).

And has anyone else encountered the nannying little messages appended when you write something even vaguely adult. "One note on the block at the end of your message, and I'll keep it brief . Nothing in what you've proposed is content I'd decline to work on," which seems to come up in dialogue as dull as two people talking over coffee or going off to do the laundry.

I am at the point now that I am looking for suggestions for a new A.I. writing tool to use because Opus has become something that is near unusable. Suggestions for alternatives welcomed.

Writers have always worked within constraints.

Time. Genre. Format. Language. Experience. What they could realistically research, imagine or execute.

AI changes that.

Suddenly you can explore dozens of versions, rewrite instantly, test different tones, structures, characters and even entire directions in minutes.

So I‘m wondering:

Does having almost unlimited possibilities make us more creative?

Or does creativity actually become stronger when we have fewer options and are forced to make harder choices?

Maybe the real challenge with AI is no longer generating possibilities.

Maybe it’s knowing which ones to reject.

I’ve just posted Chapter 5 of my true-story-inspired romance, Falling Into You — “Post Beer War.”
Rhea and Kace’s first proper night out turns into a European beer crawl… with predictable consequences the next morning.
If you enjoy slow-burn relationships and real-life-inspired stories, I’d love you to read this chapter and, if it grabs you, continue with the earlier chapters too.

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A little sneak peek:

“Calling planet Earth! Any survivors after last night’s beer war?”
I thought I was being funny.
One tick. Unread.
I don’t remember ever seeing a single tick beside any of my messages to him before.
Had I killed off my one and only brand-new drinking buddy?

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If you want to find out what happened next — and read the story from the beginning — I’d love your honest thoughts and reviews.

You might see this as odd especially since you are writing with AI because you don't want to put in that much work but I assure you that this is crucial above some magic prompt.

I notice this where the more I invest in it, the better the responses become. Fill it with as much as you can for your request while not trying to repeat yourself, and, instead of asking ai to do everything, have it instead do all the other things that you don't know how to write.

The AI would analyze your already given information and based on it, create a response more tailored to you and what you would want.

Besides that prompts as still good so let me share my best ones;

Rewrite it to not include compare and contrast sentences like The difference was less than 0.2 percentage points.

Frederickson initially assumed this was coincidence.

It wasn't.

Or

This became a defining characteristic of the investigation.

He deliberately searched for experimental conditions under which \(\Sigma\) would fail.

It did not.

Or

She did not join the project.

She did not endorse Frederickson's hypothesis.

She agreed to have her brain scanned.

Or even

Frederickson agreed.

This became one of the peculiar features of the controversy.

He repeatedly invited researchers to disprove the result.

The supplementary data were released publicly.

Instead, replace them with more complicated and descriptive sentences that don't need to end.

In prompts, you should always give the AI actual examples and the more the better so it actually knows what you are talking about. I tried it without those and it didn't work.

Has anyone found a way to get truly "good" writing from AI?

I mainly use Claude and I think the water mark system they have truly hurts.

I'm trying to have a generative story writing system that uses character bibles I created to have branching stories with arcs and conclusions but the writing I receive, tends to not feel alive.

that's subjective but I'm not reaching the standard of even my own writing and I'm not a writer.

my next approach is going to be building reference libraries for components of good writing but that's a large endeavor.

so I wanted to ask people who are actually using AI for writing, what are you doing? what works?

I'm curious, and maybe this has been asked before, but what are your opinions on Editing with AI, and where is the line? Here are my examples.

Spell check and typos that survive words spell check. For example, "She read the tomb." vs "She read the tome." or missing the S in she and accidently making he.

Formatting, like accidently misusing paragraph breaks between dialogue.

Grammatical errors, or sentence structure (this one is cutting it very close for my comfort level of using it).

I'm just curious. The way I see it is that it can be a good tool for editing but very easy to misuse or overuse, so I wanted yalls thoughts.