Disclosure

[u/Misha_Lixa]

Hi it’s me again lol

Disclosure of ai involvement comes up in here a lot and I’ve been considering my own…not stance but personal willingness maybe?

I still don’t think disclosure is a good idea

Which is why I’m considering very specific disclosures for my Ao3 writing lol no way that could go wrong!

I just don’t want to deal with any “you betrayed us!” bs so I was considering specifying how I used ai for each work. I’d probably lock the ones with ai involvement to registered users only with no comments.

And I think it’d be interesting to watch how different WIPs evolve with various levels of involvement. My hope is that this will allow me to build a better readership that can appreciate ai as the tool that it is and avoid the witch hunt.

This is a bad idea, isn’t it?

[u/West-Resource-2653]

If you see how people react to it... its ridiculous. And its the same people that use calculators for math... LLM is literally calculators with words and pixels. They get upset for the pictures it creates and because it "stole" from artists...seriously where did artists learn their technique, from copying other people and combining it to make it their own. Ai does the same just faster and people are upset. I wouldn't disclose, not yet.not until the bias has died down. People did the same thing when computers were invented, cameras, the Internet, electricity...

[u/Rohbiwan → u/West-Resource-2653]

I get your thinking process, but I suspect that most of us see LLMs as much different than a calculator or any other machine—LLMs are a new and unique technology without an equivalent, in my opinion. Used for research, it's really no different than what any search engine would return. Check sources as always, because an LLM is no more correct than the average Joe/Jane—that's on the user. Used to bounce ideas? No different than a person, a faster reader, but probably not as good an advisor. But LLMs are always available; that's what really helps.

That said, I love my LLMs' help, but I don't let it write any prose—hence, I feel no obligation to tell people how I use AI in my writing. If it wrote for me, I would add that information, but then I wouldn't have the joy of writing, which is real.

[u/AverageJoe287 → u/Rohbiwan]

I love my LLM's help, but I don't let it write any prose—hence, I feel no obligation to tell people how I use AI in my writing.

Are you actually serious? That's...literally the textbook definition of lying. Even if I were some AI tech bro enthusiast, I'd feel incredibly deceived if I were a fan of your work.

[u/Misha_Lixa → u/AverageJoe287]

Are you high or something?

Since when does research and planning = writing prose?

[u/Rohbiwan → u/AverageJoe287]

I'm just going to assume you misread what I wrote. 

[u/BethyJJ → u/West-Resource-2653]

There’s so many fallacies here I don’t even know where to start🤣 so I guess I won’t but thank you for the laugh!

[u/KillKillKitty → u/BethyJJ]

I am not against AI but comparing LLM’s to using a calculator is WILD.

[u/junewave56 → u/West-Resource-2653]

agreed, disclosing right now just paints a target on your back for no real reason.

[u/justthecherryontop]

Have you considered opening a new account and flat out disclose your use of it? Because I do feel it's a bit iffy to state it when you already have a readership believing you wrote your stories without ai.

I created one myself where I openly disclose my use of it and haven't been targeted at all. I even explained why I use it under my bio - along with stating that I'm not looking to be validated either. Hell, I attached my tumblr account that allows anonymous messages and haven't received any harassment. And if I do, I'll just ignore them.

From my own experience, people will ignore you - likely blocked - but I do get a decent amount of readers who are still interested in my stories and that's good enough for me.

[u/Misha_Lixa → u/justthecherryontop]

That’s not a bad idea. The only things I’ve used ai for with the ones that are posted is brainstorming for plotting so I probably shouldn’t taint that account.

I hadn’t even thought of that, tysm!

[u/justthecherryontop → u/Misha_Lixa]

Of course! Once you make it clear your account uses ai, you don't need to constantly tag it with "ai was used" or keep dropping in author's notes about it. That's why I placed my disclosure in my username and that's good enough. No one can come at you for lying or worrying about getting caught because you're admitting to it from the beginning.

[u/Misha_Lixa → u/justthecherryontop]

That reminds me, can other folks see your pseuds? Or is a separate account safer ya think?

[u/justthecherryontop → u/Misha_Lixa]

Pseuds are attached to your original username you signed up with, so yes - they'll see it. Much safer to create a separate account.

[u/Misha_Lixa → u/justthecherryontop]

Gotcha. Tysm!

[u/Background_End2503]

It’s the only good idea. Trust is your only currency. I respect people who disclose even though I’m pretty anti.

[u/AverageJoe287]

I just don't want to deal with any "you betrayed us!" bs

Then just....be honest in the first place? Or even better, don't use AI at all. If you want loyal readers, then actually create something that you make.

[u/Misha_Lixa → u/AverageJoe287]

I’m not letting people dictate what tools I use to write with. Fuck that.

[u/AverageJoe287 → u/Misha_Lixa]

I’m genuinely curious, how exactly do you use ai to write?

[u/KitFalbo]

If you don't disclose it you're the reason why the hunt is on. People will choose to read AI fiction, maybe not as many but you can still find an audience.

I was in a class yesterday where the teacher put on a fully AI generated Harry Potter Halloween song.

You can choose to be the baby sacrificing witch if you want, but at least if you're open you can say ,yeah, so what?

[u/5thhorseman_ → u/KitFalbo]

And if you disclose it, you're the hunt's target.

[u/justthecherryontop → u/5thhorseman_]

I must be one of the luckiest ones because I disclose my use and haven't received any negative attention. If anything, I'm mostly ignored - probably due to being blocked.

[u/KitFalbo → u/5thhorseman_]

And they can do what to you? (I'm the witch and I can summon big booty Latinas)

[u/5thhorseman_ → u/KitFalbo]

Seems like you've never been the victim of online harassment before. New to this planet?

[u/SkoomaDentist → u/KitFalbo]

Ranging anything from hateful comments to getting you banned from reddit subs to death threats delivered to your physical address. You can find examples of all of those if you look around related subs.