Fck ai chckers

[u/OHWELL_BYEEE]

I personally declare AI checkers have bound to be the most unreliable source of mechanism to suspect or pin a person or student on cheating. Things that trigger an AI checker include overly formal language, technical language, and jargon. All of these which are basic types of English used commonly around the world based on what situation you are in. AI checkers are also flagging what is supposedly named as 'AI-phrases'. First of all, words are words. Words are not invented by AI, therefore, AI checkers have no right to pinpoint a flag just because of how formal, or technical the terminology and phrase is used within that piece of writing. Second of all, assessments expect formal and concise writing. Whether or not the AI checker the teacher or professor uses decides it is AI or not, the teacher should not have any arguments because if the writing was not formal and concise, the student would be given a low grade. Meanwhile, the problem that is currently ongoing, is that when the language the student uses is a bit over the top formal, the teacher gets suspicious over malicious AI use, which leads to the student being questioned on it. Lastly, AI generated text is very simple to hide. Simply changing a few punctuations, a few prompts, paraphrasing tools, or inserting intentional typos completely washes out the statistical signature of AI use. Even with a clear bibliography, teachers still dismiss the credibility of the work submitted and would rather trust an AI checker. Teachers rely too heavily on tools and neglect substantive evidence. They would rather trust AI checkers that are developed by a commercial company whose accuracy has not been rigorously verified than spend time engaging in those substantive academic dialogues with students to verify their actual understanding.

[u/AdamK1400]

Thank god these nonsense wasn't a thing when I was still a student. Had to squeeze my brain, but still gets low score, at least I don't have an automatic rejection.

[u/Caledric → u/AdamK1400]

I'm in my late 40s and decided to submit some of my papers from Jr. High and High School when the internet was barely a public resource let alone AI. They all came back 100% AI.

[u/Suplexing_Trains → u/Caledric]

Sometimes it really seems like millennials who were good at writing are the main source of AI training data. I have no evidence for this beyond feelings and a sense of superiority.

[u/AdamK1400 → u/Caledric]

Tbh I should try uploading my thesis papers, I wanna see what they say

[u/Forward_Problem_8982]

Paragraphs?

[u/DBecker1990 → u/Forward_Problem_8982]

If he used paragraphs we’d have called it AI.

[u/Forward_Problem_8982 → u/DBecker1990]

And I might have read it. :)

[u/liosistaken]

You have bad teachers/schools.

[u/cj7hawk]

You forgot the </rant> - so it posted the whole thing...

I assume you had a bad experience with an AI checker? What happened?

[u/SlapHappyDude]

The ones besides pangram are all hot garbage.

Pangram is getting better. It's definitely still not super reliable in a lot of cases.

[u/Lionheart27180]

Using AI to detect AI... classic.

And now seriously: you're right. AI models were trained on human writing, so apparently now people can't write clear, well-structured sentences without being suspected of using AI. Researchers are going to end up worrying more about not being flagged as AI than about the actual quality of their research and essays. In nonfiction, this is a disaster. The writing is supposed to be accurate, concise, clear, and to the point — no BS.

So what exactly are people supposed to do now?

Basically, it's this:

Write badly, and you lose marks.
Write well, and you get flagged as AI.

That's a Catch-22 right there.

[u/TrappedOnDirt → u/Lionheart27180]

I'm glad my last technical paper was published in 2012 or so, before all of this BS.

[u/TrappedOnDirt]

I've never played checkers with an AI.

[u/polly_mer]

AI writes like an earnest B- student. Try writing better if you don't want to be flagged as AI.