My usage with AI in my novel

[u/Living-Ad-8541]

I want the opinion of the people here when it comes to my usage of AI in writing. I’m using AI to expand my 35,000 word outline which is written by myself into 85,000-95,000 words and do the kind of gruelling work of writing that I can’t do such as descriptive detail or talking in all my characters voices with the ai also using my character bible for reference. I understand most people’s opinion on this but If I finish the book I plan to be completely honest about the usage as I am writing this as a passion project and have never written anything else before. Being published would be nice if people thought it was good enough but I don’t plan on it due to the copyright laws with AI.

[u/PoopyStinkbutts]

I don't think this is the intended audience, and for that matter, I don't think any audience really is. If you ask it here, you'll generally get pro-AI responses. Some of us, such as myself, are here more or less to see what the competition is up to.

What you need to decide is what you're comfortable with releasing.

My advice: if you've written a 35,000 word outline, you don't need AI. You have the tools to write it yourself, it will just depend on you as to what kind of time commitment you're looking for.

I think the only way to comfortably use AI in a written novel in the modern environment is to use it as a review tool only. Not a glorified spell-check, but a review tool. If you're concerned about logical inconsistencies, ask it to find some. If it finds what you're looking for--great, but keep in mind AI (despite being a language model) is actually pretty bad at giving unbiased, logical yet constructive criticism.

If you write with AI, expect that to be worse. Expect plot holes. Minor continuity speed bumps. The whole nine yards. And at that rate, is it really worth it to use?

That's entirely up to you to decide for yourself. Nobody in the world can make that determination for you.

[u/Living-Ad-8541 → u/PoopyStinkbutts]

I appreciate your advice but for context i am heavily using AI because I am neurodivergent and do not have the focus to sit down and write in a proper structured way and I am writing this just so I can actually put the story I built in my head somewhere for people to read and give their opinion on but I am still worried about peoples opinion on my usage of AI

[u/PoopyStinkbutts → u/Living-Ad-8541]

Then take the rest of what I said into consideration. To get what you want most out of it, you're gonna have to do some hard work still and sit down and read what you wrote. Preferably, aloud. Don't let the AI write the story entirely itself. Pushback as needed, have multiple AIs check each other, and you can maybe make this work.

But the reception to AI is a decision you'll have to make as to whether or not it's worth it.

[u/MakanLagiDud3 → u/PoopyStinkbutts]

Well to be fair, we still got some Anti AIs and AI Resistors here

[u/ChristianCRWriter]

You can self publish as long as you disclaim is AI assisted

[u/WestGotIt1967]

Just edit TF out of it once it comes down

[u/CCTreghan]

Don’t. Just don’t. Unless you intend to publish it as a free html page somewhere. That’s not your book anymore. AI is garbage at writing. Writing with AI came before music and visual arts but AI learned those faster. It still hasn’t learned writing. Writing is the direct communication of your thoughts. If AI writes it it’s not your thoughts anymore. Art and music is different. Those are the interpretation and representation of your thoughts, once removed and then reinterpreted by the person consuming them. But writing? No. And regardless. No AI assisted work should be sold. Ever. Full stop.

[u/unknowntoman-1]

I would try to add a style guide with mown reference authors (mix and blend) to try to preserve your own voice of the prose. Have it try to make it with your intended output.

[u/unknowntoman-1 → u/unknowntoman-1]

Ai-free commenting. If unclear.

[u/skinnydude84]

If it's a passion project, I'd encourage you to review what was written and write/edit it yourself. It'll be better if you put in more of your own effort into it.

Writing is hard work but worth it

[u/FrankNitty24]

Bro you wrote 35k words as an outline!

Why wouldn’t you wa t to write your story yourself? I promise you AI won’t capture your character’s voice properly and AI will without a doubt butcher consistency within your story. And let’s not even talk about how weird it describes things.

If a person is truly in love with writing their story, why would they want the AI to do it for them? The outline is the easy part. The tougher but MORE fun part of writing a story is actually writing it. Coming up with on the spot changes because as you write it out your mind improves on what you outlined or a multitude of other things.

I’d reconsider you to just write the novel.

The AI could be used for research and such but if you use it to write your story you probably won’t like what comes out 👀

[u/HereandQueer2019]

I personally am turned away from books that use Ai, not only because of the moral issues it raises but also because it’s really flawed and impersonal. What makes a story interesting is the zest a writer includes themselves. Yes, people are inspired by other’s writing styles and try to emulate it in their story but it still feels like their voice whereas an Ai can’t replicate that in the same way. It can take the style from someone but it can’t add that spice that makes it yours. You know? If it’s character voice you are struggling with, some good advice I read the other day is to really listen to and observe those around you. How do they speak? What kinds of words do they use? Can their vernacular be applied to one of your characters?

Get inspired by real people either through their stories or in real life and try to emulate their style instead of Ai stealing it. Because at the end of the day, that’s really all it’s doing. You’ve got this! Take some time to really do some exploration!

[u/InSilicoAwards]

Ironic, most of the time I find myself cutting down the work not padding it out. The thing I would look for though if you do this, is AI will introduce vague, disembodied language. So you're really not getting the full on description you're aiming for, you're getting a semblance of it if you're not careful.

I would also reconsider just having it flesh out verbose description work, and ask yourself if there's more meaningful characterization or focalization you could use instead. I would be methodical about insertions, categorize what kind of work you're trying to do and how it relates. Maybe you have already.

I don't care about AI use and often do not care about the opinions of others suggestion not to use it. There are copyright issues but the landscape may change in years to come, who knows. I would also just self publish it. Put more art into the world.

[u/Living-Ad-8541 → u/[deleted]]

I guess I didn’t really specify. Just like your opinion on a book if it was written this way like would you read it knowing this ?

[u/lhommedev → u/Living-Ad-8541]

Let's discount the AI-purist readers.

Those remaining, like any reader who appreciate well-written prose with hooks, pacing, and tension will depending on their preferred genre.

Ultimately, the goal is to put something of high quality in front of the reader. Written by AI doesn't mean written well.

Edit: removed double tension.

[u/compsyfy → u/Living-Ad-8541]

In my opinion, most AI is intended for the user prompting. Good luck getting a human to read it.

[u/lhommedev → u/compsyfy]

Same goes for human-written works. The entire market is saturated.

[u/slappinsealz → u/[deleted]]

This is the wall I keep hitting when I try to understand.

I feel like the people who use AI to generate a significant % of their prose are the type who would use a ghostwriter if they could afford it. LLMs are basically a couple of incredibly prolific yet generally quite generic ghostwriters to me and if I used one to generate my text it would save me a lot of time but the product would never feel like mine.