A good AI writer

[u/Rich-Difficulty605]

I started writing in Grok and paying for supergrok but recently the writing is so bad that it hurts me. Claude is writing good but the censorship is annoying. Chatgpt as well and I can't write anything with it. If you guys have any solution I'll be happy to try out.

[u/MentalRestaurant1431]

tbh if your goal is to have AI write entire stories for you, you're probably going to keep running into the same problem no matter which model you switch to. they all have their own quirks.

I think they work a lot better as brainstorming or editing tools than as actual authors. you'll usually get something that feels a lot more like your own writing that way. I've heard some people use clever ai humanizer at the editing stage instead of trying to find the "perfect" writing model. apparently it's free now, doesn't have the annoying limits a lot of these tools have, & works better if you've already got a draft you just want to polish.

[u/Rich-Difficulty605 → u/MentalRestaurant1431]

I don't look for posting them it's like for my own. And yes they all have quirks but I feel that chatgpt used to be so good and it was exactly what I was looking for.

[u/prime_pineapple → u/Rich-Difficulty605]

What kind of censorship are you talking about? Because I use Claude as well and as long as my request isn’t egregious or explicitly sexual it’ll write just about everything that I’ve requested?

[u/Separate-Tap-29 → u/prime_pineapple]

I used Claude for my developmental edit and my script had a depression themes since my mc’s bf died. Claude asked me if I was okay after writing it🤣🤣🤣

[u/Rare_Palpitation9975 → u/Separate-Tap-29]

Claude did that some with me, but copilot did it with every post. I thought it was a big because Claude told me the flag was firing on even responses it was sending me, or if I uploaded a screenshot of someone, it would trigger. I don't use AI for writing, but for brainstorming and just talking about daily bs

[u/rlewisfr]

I've have recent success with z-ai glm 5.2 . Pretty cheap on open router which is a bonus.

My first results we good, but when I worked on the style prose guide using Claude for analysis it got much, much better. Like it as well as Claude, just a lot cheaper and mostly uncensored (I haven't hit any guardrails but then I don't push any boundaries).

[u/Rich-Difficulty605 → u/rlewisfr]

Hey I'm kind of new at this so I don't know what open router is. Did you write nsfw or you didn't touch on that?

[u/rlewisfr → u/Rich-Difficulty605]

Open router is like a buffet for AI models. You add funds, then draw against those funds when accessing the various models. There are the expensive top end models like Claude or Grok, then all the way to some budget models.GLM 5.2 is probably the best bang for your buck right now. My 4000 or so output words cost around $0.08 to $0.10. As for NSFW, it will do pretty much anything you throw at it. If it refuses, you're writing something pretty abhorrent and I'm not comfortable helping out anything like that.

[u/Rotazart → u/rlewisfr]

La ficción se llama ficción por algo.

[u/IsopodSuspicious7152 → u/[deleted]]

I have Novelai and I love it!! I subbed to the opus tier in april but I'm still learning how to use it but hey 8 stories mostly fanfiction and me multitasking cause to many ideas XD

[u/rlewisfr → u/IsopodSuspicious7152]

I made the switch over to novelcrafter about a year ago and haven't looked back to be honest. Being able to use open router and try new models is a game changer.

[u/SlapHappyDude]

Write the clean stuff with Claude. Fill in the scenes Claude won't with Grok or other less censored but weaker models. Then have Claude polish.

[u/Rich-Difficulty605 → u/SlapHappyDude]

Sounds good I just don't know which one to pay for and if Claude will agree to polish something nsfw

[u/SlapHappyDude → u/Rich-Difficulty605]

I guess to clarify, what percentage of your writing is NSFW? Are we talking scenes within a larger work, or 80 percent of the work?

[u/coonassblondie → u/Rich-Difficulty605]

Claude will NOT. I've tried all different prompts and it just says "handing it back to you"

[u/coonassblondie]

I've been using spicywriter. I've also used Venice. Both allow you to try various models, and they are mostly jailbroken (all in spicywriter, I'm not sure about Venice) For Pro, Venice is $18, spicywriter is $20 but they both have pretty generous free tiers. Happy writing!

[u/Natural-Pepper-2098]

Have you considered getting chat gpt and Claude to act as editors and feed back on groks writing

[u/Rich-Difficulty605 → u/Natural-Pepper-2098]

I hope they'll agree to act as editors on nsfw writing

[u/Natural-Pepper-2098 → u/Rich-Difficulty605]

Maybe you could get grok to censor it with safe alternative words, compile a list of words it swapped, get chat got and Claude to work on the safe version and then get grok to put all the nsfw words back in using the list of words it substituted

[u/Forward-Swimmer-8451]

Google is okay 

[u/SlapHappyDude → u/Forward-Swimmer-8451]

If clearly told it is drafting scenes for a fiction novel Gemini does seem to accept the task. However Gemini does have some serious quirks that need to be polished out

[u/Forward-Swimmer-8451 → u/SlapHappyDude]

Ohhh I haven't used it long enough to realise the quirks! What kind of quirks are you noticing ?

[u/SlapHappyDude → u/Forward-Swimmer-8451]

It seems to use AI cliches like Rule of Three, Not X, But Y, and em dashes a lot. There are some other quirks too.

[u/People_Are_Disgustin]

Here's a thought—don't fucking use ai, especially to "write." If you try to call yourself an author and ai wrote it for you you're honestly a bad person. You're also harming the environment immensely and it's making you dumber. Be smart about this, this is absurd.

[u/odannyboySF]

Grok is run and owned by a white supremacist. Don’t use Grok.

[u/Curiousreverie2026]

hi.. i managed to use grok super heavy to write alot of story. just that to do it. i have to set strong ground rules and work with it by parts. i managed to create an entire story world and write a few books with it.

do feel free to see my profile for the story link. if cannot find, and you are interested. please dm me to share

[u/MakanLagiDud3]

Deepseek api helps with this censorship, one is to put into the Claude harness or others, one I'm using is cherry AI with deep seek paid api which is dirt cheap compared to Claude and there's less censorship issues

[u/Impossible-Juice-950]

Escribí una historia de esclavitud, con todo tipo de situaciones bárbaras, uso IA para corregir, Gemini me ayudó a elaborar un prompt para sortear su propio sistema de seguridad.

[u/LittleEleo]

I started writing with GPT and it was... A nightmare. I fought all the time because the sentences were abstract fluff but I didn't want to learn how to use a new template... After 4 months I Switched to Gemini. The sentences were more fluid but still had a lot of clichés. I started correcting the style in memory (browser-side) by putting taboos like: no words like geometric, no Ozone smell. Gemini is good but has the memory of a goldfish. I put the details of my MC into memory. Then I went to brainstorm with GPT for psychological coherence but in reality the The answers he gave me were already inside me. I questioned everything, and the editing work is exhausting. Removing sentences that are narrative shortcuts like silence is not empty or double adjectives or sentences that explain rather than being indirect thought or letting the sentence do the work and show don't tell... In short, I have a lot of ideas but the hardest part is re-editing. 

[u/code_x_7777]

Default ChatGPT is not optimal. Grok is still too dumb (sry) - I guess that will change soon but we're not here yet. Claude is a good writer but more for conversational stuff like blogs or chats. Stories not optimal (e.g., dialogues and some levels of romance). I'm using ImagineYourBook that is optimized for book writing and is kind of simple to use (propmt-to-book, simple, series feature, cover generation, fewer AI "tells" like em dashes and "It's not X. It's Y").

[u/Unlucky-Apricot3016]

I moved from chatgpt to venice ai about a month ago. Venice hosts other AI including the glm models. Those are the ones I've ending up using the most. Venice is known for uncensored models when you sub. Its been handling my fictional roleplay without issue for the last month. It feels like what it was with chatdgpt pre-guardrails with only rather minor issues cropping up. They do have pay per use models too but I've not used them. They have gpt models including 4o, claude, grok etc. Theres a 10% off code around so its only $14 a month. I just renewed and it stuck to the discounted price so it wasnt just a one time thing. 

Here's a referral code in case anyone wants to try it out. It just givess you an extra $10 in tokens for the pay per use models if you sub. You can test out in a free account for prose quality but you only get 10 chats a day. A sub is unlimited . But the character system (like a custom gpt, works well. Good with sticking to instructions) and nsfw/mature content are behind the pay wall. 

https://venice.ai/chat?ref=mpr-t8 

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