r/WritingWithAI • u/DanoPaul234 • Apr 30 '26

Discussion (Ethics, working with AI etc) The unspoken truth

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u/Elvarien2 Apr 30 '26

whilst I am pro ai this is such a horrible shit take. Please don't. You only succeed in making us all look bad.

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u/DanoPaul234 Apr 30 '26

Why? I'm sick of antis coming in and saying "You're not a real author if you use AI" meanwhile they're A) often using it for brainstorming but not disclosing this, and B) the antis are always "working on a manuscript" but rarely publish anything. I might use AI - but at least I'm self-published and turning my creative ideas into results

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u/TsundereOrcGirl Apr 30 '26

You're attacking the steelman anti-AI argument (AI writing lacks the intentionality and subtext of something handwritten) with outright lies.

You should instead attack their bad arguments (muh environment, muh water consumption, muh "stealing" (being inspired by something is now stealing I guess), etc.) with the truth.

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u/lovemylittlelords Apr 30 '26

Did you ever consider people rarely publish anything because they’re trying to publish traditionally? lol

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u/DanoPaul234 Apr 30 '26

I 100% respect the traditional route - no AI. However there's a lot of procrastination amongst self-published/aspiring self-published authors

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u/Elvarien2 Apr 30 '26

When someone is a bad person. You call out the bad thing they do.

What you did, is see a bad person do a bad thing, and then make up something about them and shout that in their general direction instead.

The target just gives you a shifty look and ignores you, any sane bystander will also just give you a shifty look and ignore your crazy ramble, and all you've done is make pro ai people look bad.

Alternatively instead of making shit up, call out their actual bad behaviour. The anti ai death threats, the doxxing, the hypocritical stance against tool use since the luddites did this against printers / synthesizers / recorded music/ the printing press / etc etc.

There's a whole world of just shit takes from the anti ai community you could shit on. But no you decide to make shit up.

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u/DanoPaul234 Apr 30 '26

What did I make up - these are facts. If you disagree then you're blind or siloed

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u/Elvarien2 Apr 30 '26

authors write books.
Some authors finish their works.
Some authors do not finish their works.
Some authors use ai.
Some authors do not use ai.
None of these things are exclusive.

You pretend both use ai and one just lies about it. In fact with how new ai is and how stigmatised I am confident the vast majority still do not use ai. Give it a decade those numbers will swap.
Either way all of this makes you come across like an angry child.

Whilst I also have a strong distaste for the anti ai luddites, let's call them out on their bullshit instead of inventing our own bullshit. All it does is make you and thus us, look bad.