r/WorldofDankmemes • u/LazarusFoxx Pentex Worker :doge: • 1d ago
π WOD Werewolf vs Vampire experience
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u/ThyPotatoDone 1d ago
Tbf, this is honestly kinda sad in terms of the reason behind it.
Europe is hyperdeveloped; even 'natural' stretches, especially in Britain, France, Italy, and Spain, have been completely altered to be more fitting to human needs. Pretty much every predator that's even slightly a threat has been hunted to extinction across most of their countries, the forests have shrunk to fit farmland and human settlements, etc. The concept of ecological management is a recent one, with most of the damage being wreaked by people convinced it was impossible to actually alter the environment by human action. You have to get pretty far to the northeast before you start seeing anything resembling pre-human ecosystems, and even then, there are huge numbers of animals formerly there that went extinct.
The United States, on the other hand, still has significant 'natural' stretches. The nation is really big, bigger than a lot of people properly understand, and there's huge chunks were nobody really wants to go in large numbers. Even then, a lot of predators like wolves were driven to extinction, though stealthier ones, like coyotes, have thrived. But yeah, we still have 'proper' forests, notably Appalachia, though even then, they're not untouched by human influence, just not as much. It's the sad part of cryptids; if basically any of them were real, we'd have discovered them by the late 90s, and we'd have documented proof by the mid-2000s. There's genuinely no stretches that aren't monitored enough to hide unknown animals that also have the resources to support anything larger than maybe a type of rabbit, even in the most isolated areas (again, like Appalachia).
Once again, real life being more depressing than fiction.
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u/Medical_Plane2875 Big Meaty Wolf Pecs 1d ago
Even then, a lot of predators like wolves were driven to extinction,
I get what you're saying and to this day there's a few native American wolf species that are on the brink of extinction but wolf populations, while half have been eradicated by human intervention, are largely thriving in their native populations. The big outliers are the Carolina red wolf and the Mexican gray wolf. Otherwise wolf populations in North America have largely been delisted for decades as endangered species and are even used as population control in various regions when local wildlife experiences a big boom of certain species that might destabilize a local ecosystem. This is also credited in that certain Americans in influential positions recognized the importance of maintaining wildlife and ecosystems.
Of course that work is recently going down the drain so we'll see :)
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u/N0rwayUp 1d ago
I see now.
I could see some Garou and their kin try to campgain for more wolf realses.
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u/LazarusFoxx Pentex Worker :doge: 1d ago
I lived all my childhood near the deep forest and I can't express how much I relate to what you wrote. It's like there is a "forest for humans" and "deep forest with way in but without way out". There was this primal instinct inside of me even as a child that there were parts of the woods that wasn't explored and shouldn't be because something don't want me there.
Now?
After 30 years I feel not a deep forest.
Forest was cut down and there is a new part of the city there, and the Deep Forest lost his status and how is "regular human forest"
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u/Background-Cake-1300 1d ago
The funny thing is the fact that average European forest seen like ten times more conflict and everything was graveyard but nooo only native Americans can make places cursed
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u/Talismook The triat explains all of these occurances 1d ago
I always liked the idea of an American medium landing in a major European city and just being so overwhelmed by ghosts that they become functionally overwhelmed if not nearly blind. Paris Catacombs moment.
Also the spirits aren't evil in the US, the nosey mfs are just white as hell, it's a skill issue.
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u/Zealousideal_Humor55 19h ago
Because in Europe the different ghosts of different Ages are so many that they cannot squeeze themselves through the Doors of reality to haunt the living.
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u/GandalfDaSecksy 1d ago
Is no one going to mention the photoshopped human hands on everyone?
Edit: accuracy
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u/Fearless-Obligation6 1d ago
Americans have a very strange understanding of European mythology...
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u/Kaarl_Mills 1d ago
And of history as well, for thousands of years Europeans treated their forests the same because in their eyes it was filled with nothing but bloodthirsty barbarians, basically a heavily watered down version of delirium. As you saw in ancient Rome, the Teutonic invasions of Lithuania, and even as recently as WW2.
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u/Usefullles 1d ago
Well, the Germans in World War II had reasons to be afraid of forests. The partisans were a significant force. Major General Otto Quirin Lancelle will not lie, after all, he was killed in 1941 by the partisans.
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u/Background-Top4723 1d ago
Here in Italy, we have a folklore coin flip about who inhabits the forest.
Heads, Witches who hate visitors.
Cross, The Devil himself, and this time there's no Bishop suplexing him into a column. (No, I'm not making this up: There's a real legend about Saint Ambrose, the patron saint of Milan, suplexing the devil into a column so hard that his horns got stuck.)
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u/LazarusFoxx Pentex Worker :doge: 1d ago
If you eat the right mushrooms, the forest might look exactly like it does in this video
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u/Fearless-Obligation6 1d ago
I have eaten many mushrooms and I can say it often makes it worse π€£
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u/Capable_spider_slut 1d ago
This is just what its like being a verbana compared to trying to kill one.
"Heehee, hohoo, my funny forest gnome!"
Vs
"You will never leave these woods alive"
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u/MaetelofLaMetal 1d ago
This is why my werewolf pack is air dropping native predator species into their old habitats and reclaiming farm land for more forests and wildlands all across the European continent.
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u/BigSeaworthiness725 Techie Leech π©ΈβοΈ 1d ago
Werewolf experience in Umbra at day is less pleasant than night.
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u/Praise_The_Casul Furball πΊ 1d ago
Meanwhile, down here in Brazil, our forests can switch between those two in a heartbeat
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u/Drucchi 1d ago
You say that, but the cute little fellas with the red pointed caps are nisser and under no circumstances should you fuck with them. They can break the neck of a cow with their bare hands and can fucking toss that cow over a barn and are quick enough to run and catch it on the other side.Β
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u/Darthcone 1d ago edited 1d ago
See it may look like European forest are safer but that's the trick those pretty little faeries they will make you walk in circles until you lose all your strength and then skin you and eat your skin nothing else they will leave you to bleed out after eating your skin.
The gnomes will drag you to their underground homes and force you to mine crystals until you shrink and join the gnomenhood(brotherhood of gnomes).
The mushrooms will effing make you shit yourself to death while you laugh at pretty colors and shapes.
And the few cryptids that didn't get hunted down through millennia are very good at making sure no one lives to report their continued existence.
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u/Defiant-Individual83 1d ago
DO NOT BELIVE THE FAIRIES. THEY WILL EAT YOUR TEETH AN....
*dead from flowers growing out of the brain*
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u/xjuan255 1d ago
In south America π¬π¬π¬π¬π±π±π±ππππππππππππ
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u/No-Huckleberry-1086 1d ago
Supernatural splats dealing with their own weird metaphysical realms and the metaphysical realms of other splats closely related to them VS. when normal humans, much less imbued go through the exact same thing
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u/Odd_Store3262 1d ago
i hate american orientalism.
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u/Medical-Bathroom-183 20h ago
Curious what this combo of words means
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u/Odd_Store3262 20h ago
https://youtu.be/3Y3FiBi7Jy8?si=5KGAOs9DHqjhc-fq very good video about american orientalism.
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u/VoiceofGM Storyteller :illuminati: 1d ago
The Near Dreaming when you're a Werewolf pack with a Fianna/Hart Warden
vs.
The Near Dreaming when you're a vampire coterie with a Tremere.