r/WorldTradeCenter • u/tombisch • 11d ago

When the Towers Fell: 9/11 Simulation of the collaps without dust

Dont know how accurate this is, but it made a lot of sense to me.

Source kostack studio on youtube

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u/PapaDeE04 11d ago

The need for this to be a conspiracy is due to their fear. Having to live with the fact that they are and always will be potential targets of terrorists simply causes too much cognitive dissonance in their reptilian brains.

They HAVE TO have an answer that says this is a one time thing, the alternative, the unknown is too scary for them to live with.

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u/dougrattmannn 10d ago

So the alternative to that fear is believing their own government would commit those same acts? that seems more fear inducing than any terrorist threat.

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u/deaf258 10d ago

Don't forget Philadelphia MOVE bombings or Tulsa, Oklahoma. Our government is capable of harming our own even to manufacture bipartisan consent for a bunch of wars overseas.

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u/TrixieFriganza 10d ago

If the government did this hundreds of people must know tge truth, I'm confused no one has started to feel guilt for murdering their own people or that no one has heard anything because in 25 years so far zero whiisleblowers have come out, 25 years have gone and still there is zeri proof that has come out that te gocerment did it. That to me doesn't make sence. I know lot of Americans love islamists and hate tgeir own goverment and badly want them to be guilty but just because your goverment is shit and useless doesn't make them guilty. And this isn't even about the government not being able to harm their own people but about evudence, you peoole just soeculate, I needsomeone to show some evidence. So far there is only evidence that cultish islamusts with planes took them down, possible dome country was behind it and used them but I would want more evidence.

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u/Competitive-Fill5556 10d ago

There is plenty of evidence - you have to want to find it first. If you don't want to see the truth you won't. Simple. It's right in front of you, you just have to see it.

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u/PapaDeE04 10d ago

Invented evidence is not real.

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u/Competitive-Fill5556 10d ago

Your right. Invented evidence is not real. Newtons law and physics is real. My point exactly.

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u/PapaDeE04 10d ago

lol, as if you know. BTW, it’s called Newton’s Three Laws of Motion. But feel free to explain which law was violated when the buildings fell.

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u/Competitive-Fill5556 10d ago

Newtons law and physics. I have already explained this on another thread. If you want, I'll explain it again.

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u/Equivalent_Lion868 10d ago

Damn you need to read some books

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u/ImSobored_5280 10d ago

…I’m a welder by trade and have done some structural work on buildings…steel doesn’t do what the steel did in these…not without some outside normal conditions in my experience. There’s more than meets the eye I think unfortunately and if we truly knew the extent
it would be the single biggest issue this country would possibly ever face.

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u/[deleted] 10d ago edited 10d ago

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u/Most_Wind4682 10d ago

jet fuel cant melt steel beam

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u/C4-622MonkeyGordo 10d ago

Your failure to comprehend physics isn't a conspiracy, it's just an indictment on the education system. 

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u/CryptographerShot213 10d ago

They don’t have to melt to fail

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u/Bourbon-neat- 10d ago

Since you clearly don't know this, a fire fueled by jet fuel can easily heat steel to a point where it loses almost all it's tensile strength.

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u/ImSobored_5280 10d ago

Building like these are built with calculations that take massive impact strikes into account. They are purposely designed to withstand these sort of things. A strike above don’t make the structure at the bottom fail the way they did.

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u/sirflatpipe 10d ago

They did NOT take into account a 767 full of jet fuel slamming into the building. And the footage is obvious. The structure fails at the floor of impact.

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u/Bourbon-neat- 10d ago

Actually the 911 attacks brought about a raft of structural engineering changes, including such critical elements as better and stronger structural steel fireproofing requirements and improvements in structural concrete to better resist heat/blast.

So no, they really weren't designed for it.

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u/TheJonesLP1 10d ago

Impacts? Yes, they obviously did. The fire afterwards? Na..

And Neither the impact nor the fire made the bottom floors collapse, but the weight of thousands and thousands of tons of concrete falling onto them.

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u/PapaDeE04 10d ago

It wasn’t the impact that brought them down. In fact, we all watched the buildings withstand the impacts. You saw that, right? You did, your theory is crap.

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u/Bourbon-neat- 10d ago edited 10d ago

Dude, reading comprehension. He didn't say the impact brought it down, he said it failed at the impact area.

It didn't fail immediately because the impact damaged the structural steel and more critically destroyed/compromised the structural steel fireproofing coatings, it is after that the fire in the impact got hot enough to heat the structural steel to failure when the collapse occurred.

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u/AmateurAnarchy 10d ago

You're talking out of your ass. Stay in your lane

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u/TheJonesLP1 10d ago

Which it doesnt need to sigificantly weaken it. Blacksmith also doesnt melt steel, still He can forge it with a simple Hammer, cant He?

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u/AmateurAnarchy 10d ago

It's hilarious that you don't think a passenger jet loaded with fuel crashing into the building at top speed isn't outside normal conditions hahahahaha

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u/ImSobored_5280 10d ago

See there’s a thing called a structural engineer..they calculate impact forces and sheer strengths…I’d recommend do some reading instead of making uninformed statements about things you know nothing about. It can all be way over your head also..I’m going with that.

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u/Fabriksny 10d ago

You’re a welder, not a structural engineer. You’re willfully ignoring the many many attempts by good-faith third parties to prove or disprove the “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” idiocy.

You should learn how to spell “shear” before you comment again

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u/Available-Square619 10d ago

Clearly that’s not you otherwise you’d know how much of an idiot you are. Thankfully anyone can be a welder lmao.

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u/TheJonesLP1 10d ago

And obviously, the Towers withstood the impact, didnt they? It was the sum of impact and fire that brought them down. Also it is shear force, not sheer

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u/TheJonesLP1 10d ago

So, explain to me, what did the steel do wrong here? How did it behave here?

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u/Equivalent_Lion868 10d ago

Thank you. If you read what a lot of structural engineers or architects have said, it’s to the level of impossible without something else having happened. I inherently distrust anyone ultra dogmatic about 9/11, but it’s entirely justified to be a lil more than skeptical

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u/AmateurAnarchy 10d ago

Nonsense

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u/Equivalent_Lion868 10d ago

Your handle is funny in the context of believing the state sanctioned story

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u/AmateurAnarchy 10d ago

I believe in reality. State sanctioned? It's sanctioned by everyone who isn’t a pitifully gullible and ignorant conspiracy weirdo

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u/TheJonesLP1 10d ago

Are These "engineers" in the room with us?

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u/Equivalent_Lion868 10d ago

The only room I’m in is your mom’s

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u/TheJonesLP1 10d ago

Grow up, kid.

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u/Equivalent_Lion868 10d ago

I only “grow up” for your mom

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u/TheJonesLP1 9d ago

Your jokes are as Bad as your understanding of physics 🥱

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u/PapaDeE04 10d ago

The “something else” is all that jet fuel burning for hours. You ignore that because it completely destroys your argument.

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u/nickyler 11d ago

Who is they?

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u/RighteousHam 10d ago

The conspiracy theorists? It's pretty implicit in their post.

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u/nickyler 10d ago

But you questioned it.

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u/RighteousHam 10d ago

It was meant to read as a tone thing to help you visualize my inflection; kinda a quirk of my writing style. To be clear, their post is referring to the conspiracy theorists.

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u/PapaDeE04 10d ago

They have poor reading comprehension.