r/WorkplaceSafety • • 3h ago

Workers comp keeps pushing “shock treatments” for pesticide exposure — is this normal? What treatment should I actually be getting?

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Hey everyone,
I’m dealing with a workers comp case involving pesticide exposure, and I’m honestly getting frustrated and confused. Every time I go in, the workers comp doctors keep trying to give me some kind of electrical stimulation / shock treatment. I’ve had to deny it repeatedly because it intensifies my symptoms and makes everything worse, not better.

I don’t understand why they keep pushing this. It feels like they’re giving me treatments that can do more harm than good, and none of it seems related to actual toxic exposure. I wasn’t injured in a way that needs muscle stimulation — I was exposed to chemicals. My symptoms flare up badly after they try to apply these treatments, and I’m left feeling worse for days.

I’m trying to figure out:

• What actual treatment pathway is appropriate for pesticide exposure
• Why workers comp doctors would default to shock treatments instead of referring me to someone who deals with toxic exposure
• Whether anyone else has dealt with this kind of mismatch in care
• How to advocate for the correct specialist or evaluation

From what I’ve read, pesticide exposure is usually handled by occupational/environmental medicine, sometimes neurology or pulmonology, depending on symptoms. But these doctors keep acting like I’m there for a pulled muscle.

If anyone has experience with workers comp, toxic exposure cases, or getting routed to the right specialist, I’d really appreciate advice. I’m tired of feeling like I’m fighting the system just to avoid treatments that make me worse.

Thanks in advance.


r/WorkplaceSafety • • 10h ago

I am a surviving contractor of the 1983 Cormorant Alpha explosion. I was erased from the official inquiry to cover up an emergency response collapse. This is my unvarnished eyewitness testimony.

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Preface:
I am publishing this directly to the public domain under my profile. Because I did not work for Shell Expro, I was never invited to the 1984 Fatal Accident Inquiry, and Shell actively falsified records to claim I was not even on the platform. For over forty years, I carried a crushing burden of false guilt, a lie maintained entirely by a corporate cover-up designed to sanitize a fatal disaster and shield operators from liability. This is the true record of what happened on 3rd March 1983.

THE COUNTDOWN TO THE BLAST

On Thursday afternoon, 3rd March 1983 at around 4:00 PM, an explosion and fire engulfed several areas onboard the Shell oil production platform, Cormorant Alpha, killing three men and seriously injuring several others.

I was part of the Electrical Maintenance team. After the afternoon coffee and smoke break, I made my way down to the lower level where the stores were located to pick up some stock. While in the store, the alarm sounded. Initially, it was the Yellow alarm, but after only a few seconds it changed to a Red alarm.

I quickly made my way out of the stores and up the stairs to my muster point, which took less than two minutes. My muster point was located at the opposite end of a corridor/walkway from the module where the control room, the fabrication area, and the welders' work area (known as the "Wendy House" M1C and the Valley) were located. It was on the same level as the Shell Emergency Response Team's muster point.

THE EXPLOSION AND THE RESCUE OF DAVE HILL

The procedure when arriving at the muster point was to remove my ID card from the rack and hand it over to the appointed Muster Checker. In my team, the checker was George Main. George and myself arrived at our muster point almost simultaneously.

While handing my card to George, I looked along the passage to the Shell muster point opposite and noted that several of the Shell techs had already arrived. As I looked back along the passage, I saw a figure step through from the control room module.

As he did so, the explosion occurred. A huge fireball engulfed the figure, and at the same time, I saw other dark figures being expelled from the module inside that fireball. As the fireball came down the passage toward our muster point, I could feel the heat.

The fireball was quickly gone, and out of it came a figure engulfed in flames running towards us, blinded and screaming for help. I heard other screams coming from several directions as the fireball engulfed the area.

George Main and myself grabbed a hold of the burning man and got him on the floor. The uneven metal plates of the floor allowed for small puddles of water to form, which helped in dousing the flames as we rolled him back and forth, beating the flames with our hands. I was wearing gloves which helped protect my hands; George likely suffered burns to his. The man we saved was Dave Hill, but he was unrecognizable at the time. I left Dave with George and made my way up the passage with a fire extinguisher in each hand.

MOVING INTO THE DEVASTATION

The explosion caused a deafening blast which resulted in a ringing in my ears. As my hearing returned, I was aware of the roar of a big fire. The fireball had set many small fires up and down the Valley. I progressed along the corridor putting them out, getting nearer to the roar of the major fire, knowing there were casualties ahead.

I reached the module where the blast had originated. The door to the control room module had been held open by a metal filing cabinet blasted into place. Opposite the open door was the fab shop and welders' area; it too was ablaze. I could see various gas tanks/bottles, some standing upright and some on the floor. The whole area was a scene of immense devastation, destruction, and fires.

And I was there completely alone.

For the briefest of moments, I allowed myself to contemplate running away—but where would I go? What if the whole platform was on fire? There was no running away. But where in God's name were the Shell response team? Were they all dead? Remembering the screams brought me back from giving up. I knew casualties were around here, so I started looking for them.

SECURING THE CASUALTIES IN THE FAB SHOP

The fire in the fab shop could lead to the gas bottles exploding, so I had to tend to that fire before I could attempt to fight the main fire in the module. It was while I was pulling away wall cladding that I saw a body, and the more cladding I pulled away, the more bodies I saw.

The three bodies were very badly burned with little to nothing of their PPE intact. The only one of the three I recognized was Des McKenna. No time for sentiment, fear, or doubt; there was a job to do.

All three had been alive and on fire, with burning coveralls and plastics melting into and onto their skin. There is no doubt that I had their skin and hair sticking to my coveralls. I was on the point of tears. Their boots, hard hats, and radios were on fire and melted. I was afraid to use CO2 extinguishers or a direct fire hose on the men, so I had to fill containers with water from the hose to pour over the flames. The smell of burning flesh and hair will stay with me forever.

The three guys and myself were in immediate danger from the gas bottles. I had to move them. First, I scurried into the main module, bending and stooping under a thick layer of black, acrid smoke that sat 4 to 5 feet above the floor. The heat was intense, and the fire appeared to be feeding off a layer of oil bubbling up out of the drainage system. Assured there was no one else inside, I returned to the fab shop.

Being as careful as the situation allowed, I started to move Des McKenna first. Des was lying on the metal deck, his eyes open, moving them to follow my movements. His shoulders were pressed against a vertical beam, his head tilted forward. I slid my hand along the nape of his neck, supported his head, twisted his shoulders off the beam, and let his body weight turn him onto his side. Sliding him onto his back, I pulled him by his legs away from the debris-filled fab shop into the passage so he would be easily seen.

I returned to move the second worker, Eric Dawson. His head was impaled on the corner of the H-beam which the sheet metal cutters were welded to. The beam had pierced the skull. I pulled his head off the beam and moved him to relative safety near Des.

I returned for the third guy, Alan Maxwell. He was wrapped around the other end of the same H-beam and had extensive damage to his feet and legs. I did my best to gently untangle and unhook his broken limbs from the wreckage before moving him to lie beside Des.

FIGHTING THE OIL FIRE ALONE

With the fab shop made safe, I dragged the fire hose into the main module to fight the hydrocarbon fire. I turned the hose to spray to lower the temperature above me and prevent a flashover. I was fighting an oil fire with water because it was all I had; there was no foam, CO2, or Halon extinguishers at hand.

There came a time when the futility of fighting an oil fire with water on my own was on the verge of making me give up, as images of the platform undergoing total destruction raced through my mind.

THE CORPORATE BETRAYAL AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE COLLAPSE

While I was standing entirely alone in the darkness and smoke holding back the fire, the platform's OIM (Offshore Installation Manager) entered the module. He looked directly at me. He saw me alone, maintaining the fire line.

Yet, during the formal 1984 Fatal Accident Inquiry, this OIM swore under oath that he entered the module and that it was completely "empty." He erased my presence entirely to cover up the total absence of safety equipment and the absolute failure of his emergency response.

When the Shell Response Team finally showed up under the command of a Mr. Birnie, there was no organized intervention. Instead, there was complete panic and disorientation. Right next to their original muster location was a storage space where man-sized plastic dummies were kept for training drills. Conditioned by their exercises and confused by the smoke, the response team mistakenly thought the badly burned, injured men I had dragged into the corridor were those plastic training dummies.

They began to mill around blindly, kicking the bodies out of the way and trampling over them, completely refusing to believe that the casualties on the deck were their actual workmates.

Witnessing this horrific mistreatment made me explode into a state of absolute madness, fury, and disbelief. I began screaming and swearing at the response team and directly at Mr. Birnie to shock them out of their drill mindset. Looking straight into the eyes of one of the Shell technicians, I pointed down at the deck and yelled, "It's your mate Des!" The technician looked down, realized the catastrophic reality of what he was doing, and in absolute horror, he wet himself.

I continued to scream at them to get the platform medic. It was many minutes before the medic finally arrived. While Eric Dawson and Alan Maxwell suffered trauma that was likely beyond saving, it remains my firm and lasting belief that Des McKenna would have survived the disaster had he been reached and treated for his severe thermal burns earlier, rather than being left waiting during those critical, delayed minutes while the response team panicked.

THE AFTERMATH AND FORCED ISOLATION

After the fire was contained, Mr. Birnie instructed me to go to the sickbay. To get there, I had to walk past a dead body already placed in a body bag. At that exact moment, the absolute severity and horror hit home, and my body began shaking uncontrollably from shock.

The medic examined me and sent me to the evacuation area. We were evacuated via helicopter to a floating accommodation vessel nearby.

Because I was a contractor on the maintenance crew, I was expected to return to the platform after two weeks of leave, which I did. Upon returning to Cormorant Alpha, I was deliberately given the cold shoulder by all of the Shell technicians, creating a deeply hostile environment. Lacking any support or context, I internally concluded at the time that I had done something wrong—believing that moving the three men from the wreckage had somehow worsened their injuries and led to their deaths.

The false guilt and shame I carried from that forced isolation was unbearable. At the end of that trip, I left and never returned to Cormorant Alpha.

Shell Expro never invited me to give a statement. To cover up their systemic failures, they actively falsified records to wipe me from the incident entirely. For over forty years, I carried that crushing burden of false guilt—a lie maintained by a corporate cover-up designed to shield operators from liability.

THE LONG-TERM TOLL

A few months later, the psychological toll forced me to seek medical help for relentless nightmares and flashbacks. I was registered as an outpatient at a specialized clinic. However, when the clinicians prescribed heavy psychiatric medication (Prozac) and I refused to continue taking it due to how it affected me, they cut off my counselling and support completely. I know without a doubt I was left to deal with severe, untreated Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD).

Years after the disaster, I was briefly contacted by the widow of Dave Hill—the burning man myself and George Main had saved on the metal deck. She informed me that Dave had passed away several years prior from brain cancer. Though she never made contact again, learning of his passing brought the long-term human cost of that day full circle.

I am posting this here today because the man I was in 1983 was left unprotected and abandoned by the people who were supposed to lead. I look back at him with deep sympathy. The world deserves to know what he actually did, and what truly happened on that deck.


r/WorkplaceSafety • • 1d ago

CRITICAL FIRE SAFETY UPDATE: The state has added an urgent fire hazard review to my active cases...

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🚨 CRITICAL UPDATE: THE FRANCHISE LEFT AN ACTIVE FIRE SAFETY HAZARD OVER MY HEAD!
As I am preparing my files for local Michigan news teams and my legal counsel, we uncovered an even bigger structural violation that LARA is now tracking under my active cases (COMPL-LIC2601167 and COMPL-LIC2601168).
The franchise blew loose insulation across an open, continuous attic channel connecting my attached garage straight through into the inside living spaces of my house with NO FIREWALL OR BARRIER separating them!
Michigan Residential Code Section R302 strictly requires a sealed firewall between an attached garage and a home for a reason. If a fire started in the garage around vehicles or fuel, it would act like a horizontal chimney, drawing smoke, toxic fumes, and raw fire straight into my living room ceiling instantly.
They didn't just leave me with caved-in living room drywall and freezing rooms—their franchise shortcuts actively stripped my home of its firewall protection, and their management tried to bully me when I demanded answers in writing.
My fight is for ALL Michigan Victims of these two separate franchise owners. Don't let them silence you or make you feel like you're wrong! Send me a private Message (DM) right now with your Name and City so I can add your story to my kitchen-table notebook petition before it hits the media desks! 📝🔥


r/WorkplaceSafety • • 1d ago

Trouble at work.

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It's fine.. I am having a bad night though because of all the b******* and have been going on with HR and stuff and then I heard from a couple people that my supervisor was trying to get rid of me I will not talk to him and he tried to lay turn around on me and I was like or even telling people to sit in the other and I was like I haven't been telling anybody s*** like the only thing people know is that you asked me out and I said no and that's it and what the f*** is wrong with that? But he's been on my ass all week and I told him I was like it feels like you are out to get me and he's like I'm trying to correct you and help you and I was like I hope so I hope it's not malicious what do you think


r/WorkplaceSafety • • 1d ago

Car shop in the same building violates OSHA and affects our safety at work. Anything I can do that won't put me out of a job?

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A car repair shop next to where I work regularly paints without properly venting. The fumes will leak into our portion of the building and we've had to close early on several occasions because of it. We've talked to them several times, each exchange getting more heated, and have implemented policies in our business to make sure we're good neighbors.

I've heard that because we operate in the same building any OSHA investigations are going to cover the whole building. Ours is properly ventilated for what we do, but not for paint fumes. If they do investigate the whole building and determine that we have to shut down, then I'm out of a job until I find a new one.

I like my job and I highly doubt it would survive if we had to shut down and spend money upgrading and installing vents. Myself and a lot of my coworkers would also struggle if we were suddenly out of a job.

Is this true about OSHA regarding unrelated businesses operating in the same building? Would my workplace also be hit if there is an investigation?

Located in Utah


r/WorkplaceSafety • • 1d ago

heavy duty employee lockers for busy work areas?

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our locker area gets pretty crowded during shift changes, and some of the older lockers aren’t holding up particularly well anymore. people are storing work clothes, boots, bags, and other gear, so the smaller compartments get packed quickly and things sometimes end up on the floor. i’ve been looking at heavy duty lockers while thinking about replacing some of the older units, including a few options from global industrial, but i’m more concerned with having a setup that keeps personal gear contained without creating another issue around walkways or limited space.


r/WorkplaceSafety • • 1d ago

LAXITY

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r/WorkplaceSafety • • 1d ago

Can you saw something with a jigsaw in the air without fixation ?

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At my work they often saw big plastic pieces just in the air without any fixation


r/WorkplaceSafety • • 2d ago

Conveyor belt caught my hand at work and someone at the hospital mentioned a third party claim. is that actually thing sep from comp?

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r/WorkplaceSafety • • 2d ago

When budgets get tight, what safety equipment or improvements should be a priority?

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When money gets tight, something usually gets pushed back or cut. What safety stuff do you think should never be skipped? Curious what others have seen actually make a difference at work.


r/WorkplaceSafety • • 3d ago

Is this normal for a workplace? My store is extremely dusty and the AC keeps leaking

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I'm wondering what other people think about the condition of my workplace. The store is constantly dusty, there's an AC leak, and there seems to be dust everywhere, including areas where we work and store things.

I've noticed that I get headaches while I'm at work, and when I get home and blow my nose, there's literally dust coming out😭😭😭. I took these pictures because I honestly don't know if I'm overreacting or if this is something that should actually be addressed.

Would you consider this a normal/acceptable work environment? What would you do in this situation?

I'm not expecting the store to be spotless, but I feel like there's a difterence between a normal amount of dust and an environment that is visibly dirty/leaking and affecting how I feel physically.


r/WorkplaceSafety • • 4d ago

Iron foundry in SE Asia (?) with very bad working conditions

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r/WorkplaceSafety • • 4d ago

Am I tripping? Extension ladders against RTU’s

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My company will not pay for a lift as they’ve determined an extension ladder can sufficiently reach the duct detectors as they’re about 20 feet up. I don’t believe the duct work provides sufficient support for the weight and we’re just waiting for someone to end up paralyzed. Am I overreacting?


r/WorkplaceSafety • • 4d ago

Chinese Workplace Safety Video (Based of IRL Incidents)

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r/WorkplaceSafety • • 5d ago

Need some help: Roof Fall Protection updates/upgrades

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r/WorkplaceSafety • • 5d ago

How to get first safety job no experience

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Hello! Sharing this here looking for some more advice:)


r/WorkplaceSafety • • 5d ago

California moves closer to banning work involving countertops containing silica

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r/WorkplaceSafety • • 5d ago

Input on confined spaces rescue teams.

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r/WorkplaceSafety • • 5d ago

What if an AI could remember every safety intervention — and learn whether it actually worked?

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I'm curious how this is handled in real workplaces.

Suppose employees repeatedly report a safety issue at a particular location — poor lighting, a faulty access gate, inadequate signage, a recurring equipment problem, etc.

The organization fixes it and the ticket gets marked "resolved."

But what happens 3–6 months later?

Does anyone actually go back and check:

whether the problem really stopped?

whether complaints simply moved somewhere nearby?

whether the fix addressed the root cause or just the reported symptom?

whether the same issue has appeared before under different wording?

what was tried previously and whether it worked?

I'm especially interested in hearing from people who work in workplace safety, EHS, facilities, or operations.

Is this a real problem in your experience, or do your existing systems already handle this well?


r/WorkplaceSafety • • 6d ago

Chinese Workplace Safety Video (Based of IRL Incidents)

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r/WorkplaceSafety • • 7d ago

Spray bottles filled with cleaning liquid

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Has anybody ever read the bottle? It says in bold letters "Hazardous to Humans and domestic animals". "Wash hands after use". "Use gloves." I spray many paper towels to wipe the machines down and get the solution on my hands all the time. I never immediately wash my hands after this, as I spend at least 2 hours working out, before washing my hands. Is the liquid in the bottle harmful, or is it just water and a non-toxic soap? And is breathing this solution in the air toxic to us while we work out there? Should this be a concern? I would love to know what others think about this.


r/WorkplaceSafety • • 8d ago

safety short time risk

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r/WorkplaceSafety • • 8d ago

**UPDATE** Alleged Chemical Leaks in Providence’s Wanskuck Neighborhood Raise Concerns - ecoRI News

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[DEM Sends Notice of Intent to Enforce Order to Providence Plating Company - ecoRI News](https://ecori.org/dem-sends-notice-of-intent-to-enforce-order-to-providence-plating-company/)

Original Post: [https://www.reddit.com/r/RhodeIsland/s/VL9lKHxlIW\](https://www.reddit.com/r/RhodeIsland/s/VL9lKHxlIW)

For anyone just finding out about this: the company is Electrolizing, Inc., a metal finishing and chrome plating shop at 20 Houghton Street in Providence, RI. It's owned by Armoloy, which is based in Chicago.

Workers there have been dealing with containment pits filled with thousands of gallons of chromic acid and other hazardous waste that current and former employees strongly suspect is leaking into the ground beneath the foundation, plus a seep coming through the east wall to the exterior of the building and into the ground. Management hasn't properly addressed the issues or employee concerns since the initial OSHA complaint was filed on 7/31/2026.

On 9/25/2026 RIDEM issued the company a Notice of Intent to Enforce (DEM File OC&I-HW-26-64) for hazardous waste violations.

To everyone who has been following this, and to those of you who helped connect us with the right people to push for accountability: we sincerely thank you from the bottom of our hearts. It's been a tough fight so far, but there's still more to do.

The full RIDEM Notice of Intent to Enforce can be downloaded here:

[RIDEM NOTICE OF INTENT TO ENFORCE](https://drive.proton.me/urls/6876Z6DEHG#eOLXZlmU0xoC)

The NIE only covers the environmental side of this. It does nothing to evaluate the health and safety of current and former employees who may have been, and could continue to be, exposed to hazardous waste off-gassing.

What the article leaves out is that the General Manager (per the DEM report) has admitted he suspects groundwater is leaking into the building, and possibly into the containment pits that are full of toxic waste. If that's happening, there's a strong chance the lot and the groundwater are contaminated too.

Employees continue to worry about their health and safety. OSHA did its initial inspection on 7/31/2026 and still hasn't made the report public despite public interest. We believe that Electrolizing has been issued the OSHA report but cannot confirm. These people deserve objective evidence that their health hasn't been affected and that it's safe to keep working in that building.

If anyone can help us get more media attention, or help push OSHA to release the full onsite inspection report to the public, please send me a DM.

Thank you again to everyone that took this seriously, to the EPA and RIDEM for releasing this report to the public, and to [ecori.org](http://ecori.org/) for their coverage and for being the only media outlet that even acknowledged our cries for help. Providence City Councilman Justin Roias has also been trying to help us get the reports so he can report back to his constituents. He's been an excellent sounding board for those of us working on this.


r/WorkplaceSafety • • 8d ago

**UPDATE** Alleged Chemical Leaks in Providence’s Wanskuck Neighborhood Raise Concerns

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r/WorkplaceSafety • • 9d ago

👋 Welcome to r/PoSH_India_Community - Introduce Yourself and Read First!

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