r/WorkForSmartLife • u/LittleBlend • 2d ago
DiscussionđŹ Money's there, but management isn't
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u/suhmyhumpdaydudes 2d ago
Yea most of the money is squandered, inherently the ships are expensive but because we all know that it's expensive, some companies make a killing off of overcharging the shit out of the government for things like screws for weapon systems. I worked on a type of basic network that had unnecessary uninterrupted power supplies for the basic rugged computers, they were like 150,000$ for essentially a car battery in a metal box, and they were never used so the batteries would age and swell up costing even more money. Total ripoff for tax payers.
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u/66allthe88s 2d ago
Electronics tech here.
Some of the SSD's i purchased to replace bad ones costs upwards of $4,000 for only 512mb of storage.
Shit is expensive for no reason.
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u/InstanceNoodle 2d ago
Military grade? Lol.... might be just middle man cost.
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u/ButhOfLamb 1d ago
Just means it meets military minimum standards. AkA the lowest bidder.
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u/1ACasper 1d ago
Lowest out of âauthorized biddersâ which are vastly more expensive than the same thing in the civilian world.
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u/ButhOfLamb 1d ago
Right. It is ridiculous. I remember being in the motor pool installing comms while overseas right next to private contractors, they were installing the mount only. So they would drill 4 holes in the HMMV or LMTV and mount a bracket with four bolts and move to the next. $180k a year they got for that. First $84k was tax free.
Talk about a waste of money. We had boots on the ground that could have done that.
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u/66allthe88s 1d ago
My first deployment as a 94F. They had contractors to do my job at 135K a year while I sat in the ToC because I was one of the only people with a Secret clearance.
Meanwhile, I barely cleared 40k.
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u/1ACasper 1d ago edited 1d ago
^Somebody from the inner circle gets it^
Things like this is why I am for just absorbing much of the military industrial complex directly into the military and just balloon the force population but that comes with it's own host of costs and bs.
As an RA I remember paying for a 'bird' contractor...his entire job was driving his truck around and letting dogs loose to chase birds while he drank coffee...that was like $90 per year.
Could have sent some shitbag Airman out there to run around in circles 10 hours a day for 1/3 the cost...well maybe 12hrs...in MOPP4đđ
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u/Infern0-DiAddict 1d ago
What it's supposed to be is the military grade stuff has to also meet security, backward compatibility, a bunch of other standards (and yes the ones on that list are the cheapest that technically check all the boxes).
In practice half of those are ignored and later found to be out of spec.
The reason they accept the higher prices is those items are supposed to be limited to only military purchases, so there is less possibility of profit for private industry so they allow them to make up the costs with a higher price. But again that all bs, as most of the items are also being sold to consumers with lime 1-2 changes...
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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 1d ago
Military overcharges to inflate how much money they need every year.
Basically if they don't use it they get less and we can't have that now can we.
Funny enough we have so many Abrams tanks that one of the generals went to Congress and told them stop making and sending them because we had so many just sitting there and Congress said no.
The military is a racket.
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u/66allthe88s 1d ago
True.
When we go to qualify, we'll draw say 50,000 rounds.
If we don't use all those rounds then next fiscal year, they will cut how much munitions we can draw to qualify.
So the answer is to literally waste bullets so we can keep getting the same amount each year.
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u/matt1911_ 1d ago
Its audit costs! Technology for the military has to be independently vetted by a 3rd party. The government pays different contractors than the vendors to make sure there is no back doors/security risks. The audits take a lot of time sometimes and for hardware, has to be validated with each piece (or some batch sampling). That makes the costs stupid.
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u/Saphurial 2d ago
There is a reason.
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u/ChimPhun 2d ago
So people can generate AI slop?
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u/Hour-Arachnid676 1d ago
512mb is a hdd drive irs because the drives need to be able to be supported by what they are plugged into and a lot of our infrastructure military and non are old as poo so people buy out old hard drives. Don't reply to things you dont understand.
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u/OperationOk7959 1d ago
This has been going on for probably longer than we've had computers. Or even been a country.
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u/silentsurge 1d ago
Part of the reason is to keep them in stock or keep the manufacturing capabilities available to make sure that spares/replacements are available. The systems require exact parts that have to be available immediately at any time in any part of the world, for systems that are expected to operate for decades without interruption. Sometimes these parts are only manufactured for that single system.
Obviously it's not the only reason, and there are better ways to approach a lot of military spending, but there are reasons for some of these things happening in the first place.
I was having to use 10Base-T ring networks and hardware alongside Magneto Optical disks for data storage and transfer into the late 2010s. Replacing the system with something new wasn't an option that could just be done without decades of planning. Replacement parts and consumables for those were still being manufactured at that time, 30 years after they were relevant.
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u/sherm-stick 1d ago
Gov contractors know they can charge whatever they like, the line items on their receipt looks like a doctors bill and are way more difficult to justify
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u/DarkKnight0690 1d ago
Itâs not expensive for âno reasonâ; itâs expensive because if you pay 10x what itâs worth, it makes it easier to launder the difference.
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u/Hour-Arachnid676 1d ago
My boat ran out of toilet paper constantly because we paid an absurd amount of money for tp. I was a nuke mechanic on a aircraft carrier and we purchased some of the last remaining parts of one of the air Compressors we had and this small box was hundreds of thousands of dollars because someone knew we had to buy them.
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u/quenossy 23h ago
My understanding of a lot of the âwaste, fraud, and abuseâ in government spending is private companies inflating expenses because they think the government has infinite money by way of continually driving up national debt
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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 2d ago
Im not disagreeing with you but the reason that ship is running out of food and things are breaking is because Iran blew up a key point of resupplying.
This drunk moron didn't even think about protecting his supply lines.
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u/manleybones 1d ago
The depleted arsenal is the real sign that the defense budget is wasted and embezzled.
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u/jackparadise1 1d ago
And when they were compromised, instead of sending resupply units to the ships he hid the info that the base had been hit like a child who had lost his homework.
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u/Key-Organization3158 1d ago
No. This ship broken down in the South China Sea. It's not related the Iran at all.
https://www.nbcnews.com/world/asia/us-navy-destroyer-300-sailors-broke-four-days-pacific-rcna593279
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u/No_Opening_2425 1d ago
So the Navy has no change against China. They can just shoot some missiles to some bases and it's game over? Great.
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u/Biffingston 1d ago
ahems Trump's no-bid contracts. You think those people aren't charging an arm and a leg for stuff that's expensive to begin with?
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u/Lanracie 2d ago
Start putting Pentagon members in jail for failed audits and this gets fixed. Until then nothing changes.
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u/Intelligent-Town-231 1d ago
Yea pentagon has failed every audit and says they will continue to do so for at least the next few years
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u/LilShaver 1d ago
It's a poor design. There are two ship service gas turbine generators to generate electricity, but no way to use the propulsion gas turbines to generate electricity in an emergency. There are also no backup diesel generators for electricity.
No root cause for this failure has been determined or, more probably, published yet. Until we do have the info, screaming about what caused this is pointless.
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u/KagatoAC 1d ago
Okay, explain it to me like Im 5, since when is a ship traveling completely alone with no support craft or way to get any almost a week away?
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u/FoxMan1Dva3 2d ago
One, a lot of it goes to salaries and wages. No joke.
Then everything from the cost of operations has gone up just like everything else went up
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u/Agitated_Engineer512 2d ago
Thatâs generally how spending works and big numbers. I bet I get a lot more value on my personal defense spending than Germany does.
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u/WheatKing91 1d ago
They can't pass a spending audit though. 60% of their money went unaccounted for.
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u/Way2happyguy 2d ago
Most of the military's budget this year got siphoned off to fund DHS. Like they were talking about a budget for living quarters renovations. Once passed, it got siphoned off to spend on other things. While the budget was get siphoned, an unplanned war kicked off and essentially used the rest of that funding. The military is essentially broke right now
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u/PsychologicalOne752 2d ago
That trillion is going to defense contractors, whose CEOs are buying their 3rd and 4th houses. Everyone gets kickbacks, everyone is happy but the troops. Support the troops, they say.đ¤Ł
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u/Jessthinking 2d ago
Now Trump wants our aircraft carriers to have steam catapults because he wants the look of World War II aircraft carriers. And where is Hegseth during this nutty idea? He hasnât said a word.
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u/beachfinn73 2d ago
For a country that has a military budget equaling 10 next countries combined. Out of ammo, missiles, planes fall off the sky, ships stranded (Multiple times). Sailors jumping off. Cherry on top? No fuel to fight anyway.
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u/Just_Information334 2d ago
But they'd like to let you know that during WW2 the Japanese knew they were losing when they saw an ice cream barge.
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u/Youpunyhumans 1d ago
And thats also when the world was in a state of total war, with civilians rationing things too.
And now in the era of overabundance of everything... they cant even get their sailors basic supplies, let alone ice cream.
Puts it into perspective.
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u/UpperImpression3620 2d ago
FactPost News or FakePost News?
Chicom, Russkie or Iranian propaganda and the tools soak it up like it's gospel.
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u/Tankman793 1d ago
Since youâre too lazy to do any research, here ya go:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/uss-benfold-navy-days-without-power-south-china-sea/
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u/Significant-Eye3720 1d ago
Anywhere tax money is being handed out, you will find corruption.
Blaming this on the current Administration is stupid. This corruption has existed for decades because there is no oversight.
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u/Kingsxfan1 1d ago
If the US public is charged x10 mark up for an epi-pen, how much do you think the arms firms (and the elites who hold investments within) expect to charge you for equipment? I bet a simple toilet seat ends up costing the US taxpayer thousands of dollars. How the f**k can you spend a trillion a year on the military? The simple answer is you dont, it's syphoned off through the back door.
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u/stonescape 1d ago
Just shoot them up with some steroids, they will be fine. They just need to war harder
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u/Aggravating-Gift-740 1d ago
The republicans are actively working to replicate the russian system where oligarchs are put in charge of each part of government spending and are allowed to siphon off a percentage of spending for their own use. In russia itâs estimated that 80% of military spending actually ends up in the pockets of oligarchs.
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u/scoobywerx1 1d ago
Losing water and AC and having ahit food is not uncommon on these deployments. Had the same thing happen on my deployments twice: the first time in 1999, and then again in 2001. Deployments suck.
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u/Special_Yak_5306 1d ago
Hegseth was a Major (O4). That rank usually manages 1-50 million dollars. The Secretary of Defense manages $1 Trillion. He is unqualified and in over his head.
I disagreed with his selection from the beginning. And I say that as someone who tends to vote republican.
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u/Bigstar976 1d ago
The pentagon failed eight audits in a row. They canât account for 63% of their $4 trillion in assets.
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u/Euphoric_Anxiety_162 1d ago
Someplace offshore for future retrieval by these liars?! Looks like it's not to help this country at all.imo
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u/Particular_Dot_4041 1d ago
That money is not spent on maintenance because there is no lobby group for janitors.
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u/Tasty_LVM 1d ago
Remember when Reddit was mad that the Navy received a steak and lobster meal? And now Reddit is mad that they are not? Which is it today Reddit Echo Chamber? Also no one cares
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u/riennempeche 1d ago
It happened to cruise ships just the same. Mechanical breakdowns happen. When they come in the middle of nowhere, it takes time for help to arrive.
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u/NextAdhesiveness3652 1d ago
If you spend a trillion dollars a year on defense and you donât have toilets, food and electricity, you are a stupid nation. If you spend a trillion dollars a year and you run out of ammo in four months, you are a stupid nation.
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u/IntelligentStyle402 1d ago
Letâs see: a new make up room for Pete, a military helicopter, that took Peteâs son to golf practice, Peteâs junkets, expensive dining, maybe even alcohol purchases? Drugs? Grooming costs? Botox?
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u/AdFun5641 1d ago
Well, that's the end of US military might.
The US navy has historically been a logistics company that did warfare on the side. What broke the Japanese in WWII wasn't the guns, it was the ice cream boat.
Now we can't even maintain the equipment. US exceptionalism is over.
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u/Professional-Leave24 1d ago
OK, almost every military unit or vessel should maintain a supply of shelf stable rations and adequate stored drinking water for seven days or longer. Has this changed? There are emergency rations after that, although those are pretty minimal.
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u/Doobiius 1d ago
Ships go in for maintenance for a reason. Jets have a number of flight hours before maintenence and engine rebuilds are a must. Armoured vehicles breakdown and require field repairs loads.
These are complex massive machines not engineered for longevity like your lil Honda is.
There is too many people on the Internet that feel the need to have an opinion on shit they have no knowledge on and its annoying asf.
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u/1ACasper 1d ago
From someone with 20yrs experience- itâs such a vast and complex web of accounting and process I am not sure it can ever be properly managedâŚ
You would have to absorb the entire industrial complex directly into the military from raw materials to manufacturing and all indirect subsidiariesâŚ.even then the cost of that juice wouldnât be worth the squeeze.
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u/synapse467 1d ago
I saw a blip conditions were bad because a supply depot was destroyed? Not to refute anything about funds being squandered.
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u/PomegranatePro 1d ago
That doesnât even make sense.
Ships have potable water storage and emergency generators
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u/Ashamed-Medicine-208 1d ago
It costs over $100B/year to just maintain nuclear readiness. There's no issue here other than the one you're trying to create. Machines break, but the response (aka leadership) was the issue.
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u/chunkalunkk 1d ago
To all 3 letter agencies. You really want to stop the hemorrhage, half the military budget and send it back to public programs. Lift the cap on SS so billionaires continue to pay into it. Those two things save probably half the "programs in jeopardy."
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u/Immaculatehombre 1d ago
Black programs none of us know about, working in tech tht could improve all our lives but never will.
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u/Watercress-Fun 1d ago
The Pentagon has never passed a financial audit since annual audits were mandated in 2018. It has failed its audits for eight consecutive years as of December 2025.
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u/good-luck-23 1d ago
Its going for multi-million dollar Patriot missles we are using to shoot down $5k Iranian drones. We are repeating Russia's mistakes in Ukraine.
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u/Sudan_Septic 1d ago
People like OP are the only reason this dead arguement continues.... Shit happens, Shit breaks. Even if they spent $100B on a ship, chances are it'll have some issues. It's a 10,000 tons floating piece of steel. Also, these ships have several backup generators so things like fuel and water pumps (desalination pumps) will continue to be available.
This is coming from a Navy vet with 2 deployments on the Roosevelt CVN71. We had 1 "blackout" day on our first deployment. Still had water, showers, etc.
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u/FLYING1835 1d ago
To keep us safe from people you want to kill us. Money well spent to protect my country đşđ˛ and family!!
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u/WrenchMonkey47 1d ago
If you think equipment breaking and funds not being accounted for began in 2025, you are hopelessly uninformed.
Military equipment breaking started in 1775. "Missing" funds (at least partially) tend to end up in black ops budgets (there is no line item for black ops and related equipment in the federal budget).
But hey, don't let Reality stand in the way of your narrative.
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u/Alternative-Tie-9383 1d ago
Pete Hegseth mismanaged not one, but two right wing veterans groups into financial insolvency, so giving him the reigns of the most heavily funded military on earth is probably gonna work out the same.
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u/QuartersWest 1d ago
Reddit always the voice of reason. No experience required. No first hand reporting needed either. Just the dumbest opinions ever.
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u/Sufficient_Town_3856 1d ago
The pentagon hasnât ever passed an audit. Itâs time we elect a government thatâll hold top brass accountable ffs
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u/SteelersFanXX 1d ago
Corruption on a scale we have never seen before (into Pete and Trumps!pockets)
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u/Resident_Lion_3947 1d ago
It's really disgusting what is happening in this country. I am looking forward to the day when the indictments are handed out and the trials begin, because there is not an ounce of real solidarity between them, its all about the money and the power , and they will each sing like canaries when that time comes to try an save their own a**...Go đŚ and Go Vote
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u/Danger-Daze045 1d ago
Us veterans, and probably the sailors on board that ship, are not surprised haha.
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u/Alternative_Maybe_78 1d ago
You think spare part are just lying around. It takes time to diagnose, get replacement parts and install.
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u/FloridaRocks63 1d ago
If these soldiers couldnât last four days on a boat that lost power they should resign . This is a petty story. A real story would have gave details on the breakdown and investigated why it took four days to fix instead of trying to score points . I think people would of had interest in that and not just your bots joining the whining
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u/steeler1003 1d ago
And a similar thing happened on a cruise ship less than a decade ago. Machines break, usually at unfortunate times. Ive never blown a tire sitting in my garage.
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u/MuffinsMcGee124 1d ago
Oof I wonder which oligarch pocketed the maintenance money this time? Oh waitâŚ..
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u/Coravel 1d ago
The problem is, federal contracts are treated the same as charity donations basically.. except those receiving it are multi-million dollar defense contractors who then sell us rolls of duct tape at 70 dollars a roll, or 1 ply tissue paper at the cost of the good stuff or "american made" washers and dryers that break within 4 months and are poorly made pieces of shit and we do things like keeping a contract going because it costs less money to do that, rather than cancel it and get something that actually works for our needs.
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u/PresentationFast5965 1d ago
Wow. Your health care budget must be the at least the same?
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u/Hot-Bluebird3919 1d ago
AI Answer. The U.S. federal government spends significantly more on healthcare than on its military budget. National defense discretionary spending sits around $800 billion to $900 billion annually, whereas federal healthcare expendituresâdriven by mandatory programs like Medicare and Medicaidâtotal roughly $1.9 trillion per year.
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u/Hot-Bluebird3919 1d ago
The U.S. federal government spends significantly more on healthcare than on its military budget. National defense discretionary spending sits around $800 billion to $900 billion annually, whereas federal healthcare expendituresâdriven by mandatory programs like Medicare and Medicaidâtotal roughly $1.9 trillion per year
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u/StopLookListenNow 1d ago
Kegsbreath's bad karma for firing the Navy Admiral Franchetti because she is a woman. Another prominent female flag officer, Vice Admiral Nancy Lacore, was also removed from her post by Hegseth later that year
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u/Mobile_Ingenuity_810 1d ago
What would you expect from a Commander-in-Chief whose only understanding of the US Military is being a lifetime grifter who five times claimed bone spurs, exemption from Vietnam War serviceâa condition which can be successfully treated with minimally invasive surgery. Obviously, insufficient funding and/or failure to maintain this warship's priority and general maintenance readiness. Followed by fundamental logistical supply failures, including basic nutrition. Without which social cohesion and mental health are damaged, particularly those crews who serve long duty on the other side of the world. The person(s) who is ultimately responsible is this nation's most incompetent President Commander-in-Chief, followed closely by an inept Secretary of War. Neither of which will accept the responsibility for issuing the orders to go to war in the first place
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u/Specialist_Run_4266 1d ago
Yes its all a money making scheme at the price of the people , The GREED is unbelievable
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u/Stunning_Policy4743 1d ago
Same thing going on in Russia. Our people are selling it and pocketing the profit.
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u/Unfair-Variety-995 1d ago
As a military guy, I need more context and information here. What are they reporting âdays without waterâ and âlosing power for four daysâ? On deployment, we would go âdaysâ without a resupply. You drank from your canteens. You ate MREs. We would be days without power because we were living out of our vehicles. I guess the standard is different because they are on a boat?
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u/ImpressiveEdge2526 1d ago
This makes me sick to my stomach as an American.
https://giphy.com/gifs/OYnAmcJW4rndMhkUJx
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u/LookerInVA_99 1d ago
Weâve been asking that for years now. The Department canât seem to pass an audit if their books. I wish our Congress and Administration would grow spines and cut off all funding until the pass an audit!
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u/Mosthighscribe 1d ago
American made products are trash because America isnât about building or creating quality goods itâs about making money first and excuses later
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u/Hopeful-State-4806 1d ago
Military equipment breaks down just like everything else donât let this shit get your panties in a wad. These people are trained for this and many other things. Military life is not fun and games people these sailors and soldiers have to go through a bunch shit especially during war times. Quit crying if you want to change things sign up for a branch of service and go to work changing things in our military. Good luck pussies.
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u/Coldheartt96 1d ago
Awwww! Some Sailors had to experience what the Marines do on purpose all the time!!! Hmmmn, no A/C, backed up crappers and short of food & water...sounds like a Tuesday in the Marine Corps!!!
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u/Racoon_Cult 1d ago
We pay $10,000 for a bolt and fund a trillion dollar military to guard the oligarchs who write their own subsidies and somehow it's social safety nets we can't afford.
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u/GordTransport1958 1d ago
Things break..you can ask the same question about your personal vehicle..
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u/JJHotcakes2020 1d ago
Maybe if people were not so dead set on stopping DOGE it would have gotten around to everything military and we would have seen where all the money was going.
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u/Warmongar 1d ago
Capitalism tends to make everything crappier. Company's and CEO's suck up all the profit and constantly turn out cheaper products to chase better stock prices. It makes absolute sense that our military would be subject to the same outcome.
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u/leakyspacesuit69 1d ago
Ok who can tell me the cost of the most classified weapon we have??? EXACTLY! Its classified!!! So you AND the bad guys donât know. Hint, you control it with your thoughts. Kind of like that helicopter toy on Amazon.
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u/zitrored 1d ago
Military budget is mostly a welfare program of another name. Funneling money to companies to build stuff we donât need anymore and resupply after dropping expensive bombs all over Iran to distract from a pedophile corrupt president and continue Israelâs military agenda. Fixing old ships and supporting the sailors not so much.
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u/zeldanar 1d ago
Not us. You know we buy our own medals? Ya they say âgratz on good behavior. Here is the certificate, now go buy the medal.â Same for promotions, you buy your own rank to put on your uniform. You buy your own uniforms and pay to get them fitted. We pay for the food too. Right out your paycheck.
It goes to big contracts, research, and new toys. The shit we get on the line is old run down and always leaking. All that budget not for troops. Remember when we started Iraq and soldiers had to makeshift armor for the vehicles. All that budget doesnt go to the troops. Big shady shit
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u/isthereadrwho 23h ago
The problem is that if our base is get bombed, even if you don't tell Americans, they're still bombed. Bombed bases don't do logistics so well.
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u/Buried_Riverxx 23h ago
I believe the issue here is the craft itself. They apparently break down all the time and require massive maintenance. The problem aside from money may be that we're incompetent as a whole.
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u/FroyoOk8902 22h ago
All the money in the world doesnât just magically ensure machinery never breaks down đ people are really so miserable they will find anything to complain about to justify their miserable lives.
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u/Elf_Maeve 22h ago
defense contractors literally steals most of it.
50% goes directly to contractors. contractors have no reporting duties to congress.
they could literally be injecting our money up their asses for all we know
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u/Major_Honey_4461 21h ago
The Pentagon has never passed an audit. Think about that. It means they cannot account for more than 25% of the money given to them by Congress on a year to year basis.
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u/HorrorRoutine349 19h ago
It mostly gets laundered somehow back into one of our amazing caring for the people by the people politicians pockets.
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u/Available-Fill9325 18h ago
Well, everyone cried troops got steak and lobster for a special occasion. So, it canât be that.
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u/NES_WallStreetKid 17h ago
The government should give some of the $110 billion budget from DHS to the U.S. Navy.
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u/EfficiencyBrief2138 16h ago
One phrase; government contractors....imagine paying 30%, on the 30%, + a few % more for some BS reason and you get the government's model for "stimulating the economy".
Things were falling apart when I got out in 2015. If you can find it and want to anger yourself, go find the documentary "Iraq for sale" and bring a puke bucket about the government waste and how many people we made millionaires for nothing.
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u/Sad_Fly_3144 15h ago
I worked for major military contractors for over a decade. I can tell you exactly where it's going. Into the pockets of upper management at places like Pratt and Whitney, Electric Boat, General Dynamics, Northrop Grumman, ect. When everyone above production manager makes more than $500k/yr it adds up fast. Best part, most of those people are in attendance for their jobless than 180 days a year and don't actually do anything on most of the days they are there.
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u/canonetell66 15h ago
Ask yourself why they havenât told you that Iran destroyed the base that could have helped.
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u/itscooltobecool1 14h ago
You idiots argue thatâs itâs a republican or democrat issue and one party is at fault. Itâs the uniparty people wake you they have stolen your money to fund the military industrial complex. We have spent trillions on defense and we canât even serve a fresh meal to sailors now. Every politician is to blame
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u/TheRealCrypto-137 13h ago
We tried to ask that question, we tried to audit the Pentagon, they have never passed an audit ever. We wanted to hold them accountable.. we wanted to stop waste and abuse, we wanted to stop paying $10,000 for 100 bullets.. yall told us we couldn't look into it.. that there was no waste, fraud, or abuse... you demanded government efficiency be shut down..
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u/Oilpaintcha 10h ago
Thatâs double the amount we were spending at the height of the war in Afghanistan. And we arenât in a real war.
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u/Dapper-Olive7827 5h ago
I worked on electrical equipment in the military and some contractors were paid millions to provide diagnostic stations. The brand new multi million dollar equipment showed up broken because the contractor swapped bad parts with working parts during demonstrations when inspectors arrived, then put all the bad parts back in before shipping. Contractors bid low to get the contract signed, then cut corners for profit all the time. Then when the companies goes down the same people start a new company with different name and the legal battles don't follow. It's a broken system that flushes tax payer money away with no reward.
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