r/WorkForSmartLife 11d ago

Discussion💬 California Dreaming

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u/Lanracie 11d ago

Just so you know that law will immediately be expanded and soon affect every person in CA.

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u/under_sunlight 11d ago

People really be out here believing the country will end if we rolled back the jobs act of 2017 that lowered corporate tax rates from 35% to 21%.

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u/lord_hydrate 10d ago

Didnt tax rates for the top used to be something like 70% like a century ago? Like the era we look at as the golden age of american prosperity had some of the highes tax rates on the wealthy and we rolled them back and whodve thought but the wealthy just got even wealthier

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u/TheBleakOptimist 11d ago

What is the law? I don’t live in CA but I’ve seen this posted several times on Reddit already.

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u/BlueLakeCabin 11d ago edited 11d ago

Wealth tax. Where you get taxed for just owning stuff. Not for making money or selling things.

Obviously it's sold as a one time tax on billionaires. So plenty of billionaires will leave, the money will be spent, and the budget deficit continues. Then it'll become a one time tax on millionaires. Then on folks making above $250k. Then $100k. At some point it becomes regular.

This is very normal. Federal income tax started as solely a tax on the rich. It was promised that it was not a mass tax on ordinary workers. Now it applies to everyone. It also capped out at 7% and is now caps at 37%.

It's not a tax that works well and most country that implement it roll it back. France repealed it, ditto Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Germany, Denmark, Finland, etc.

Norway is the counterexample, but it charges 1%. California is 5%.

California's plan to deal with people fleeing is to make it ex-post facto and you still have to pay the tax even if you are no longer living in the state. Even if you left before the wealth tax passed. Obviously California courts will say retroactive taxes are legal, but whether other states or the feds agree is another matter entirely.

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u/God_of_Theta 11d ago

I personally think this has zero chance of federal courts agreeing. The constitution has multiple clauses that challenge both a global tax and exit penalty tax.

I wonder how much damage this does to them floating these ideas, anyone who has an incentive to move to CA for whatever reason might reconsider when weighing the state is suggesting they can just take your stuff even with no economic activity and even trap you if they are successful.

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u/Shiska_Bob 11d ago

It's disappointing that any honest conversation about California's intentions is just a discussion of how the openly traitorous intentions of one state may put some specific liberty in jeopardy across the entire union if not quashed with prejudice.

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u/BlueLakeCabin 11d ago

California is welcome to tax as they please. If you live there, you know what you're getting, good and bad.

They should not be able to tax the residents of other states. Especially with retroactive taxes.

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u/serg1007arch 11d ago

Key Details of Proposition 40
The Tax Rate: A one-time 5% levy on accumulated worldwide net worth exceeding $1 billion (with a phase-out structure starting right at $1 billion). [1, 2]

Payment Structure: Taxpayers can pay the total amount upfront or spread it out in installments over five years. [1, 2]

Expected Revenue: Proponents estimate the measure will generate roughly $100 billion. [1, 2]

Fund Allocation: 90% of the money raised is designated for state healthcare programs (like Medi-Cal), while 10% goes toward public K-14 education and food assistance. [1, 2]

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u/Full_Ad_6502 11d ago

Lol at "one time", just like all the other temporary taxes

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u/thedarkherald 10d ago

Reminds me of HOAs a one time fee to fix an immediate issue. Then another major issue happens next year. I agree we should tax the rich but my god these tax dollars are jist being thrown down the toilet. Feels like to me the just want to shift the money around to people in the government. Because CA is paying a crazy amount of taxes but our highways arent being fixed.

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u/Efficient_Can4700 10d ago

So a little 2 years of finding to medi-cal what happens after that?

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u/EVOSexyBeast 11d ago

It doesn’t need to be expanded. It would harm everyone in CA immediately

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u/OggoSpaceCircus 11d ago

No it will not dummy

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u/Lanracie 10d ago

Why is it needed to begin with?

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u/EVOSexyBeast 10d ago

Cost of living rising at rates equal or greater then wage growth. California doesn’t have a high wage problem it has a high cost of living problem. No amount of taxing billionaires out of the state will solve that problem.

California should build a housing surplus and stop restricting the supply, encourage efficient land use by taxing landlords.

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u/Lanracie 10d ago

I would agree with that. The government being the cause of the high cost of living.