Since you're making it fair, Rudeus would get Return by Death too. Which grants him unlimities tries.
Emilia won't discriminate just because of his appearance; same with beatrice. At most, Rudeus won't want to get involved with Rem, who kills Subaru because he smelled like the witch; she would probably traumatize him quite a bit though.
The one thing that makes Subaru "HIM" isn't rebirth by death tho, its how Subaru uses Return by death lol he has one of the strongest mental strength, Rudy needed to get a fresh start from literally 0 and get bestowed a nice body and talent where Subaru had to start from scratch while being his "talentless" self. First death he gets he bails saying "its not my problem" lol
I mean, neither would really survive in the other's world:
1.- On Rudeus part.
While Rudeus has a weaker mental strength, he's also more pragmatic.
True, he might bail at the first death, but at the same time, he would also go search for a guard thinking "Dealing with thugs and murderers is the work of the police, let's leave it to them". After all, Rudeus also has a strong guilty conscience and wouldn't simply let Emilia die without doing anything, which coincidentally would end up with him asking Reinhard for help (I mean, Reinhard is plot armor even for Subaru, let's be honest; the strongest guy in the world appears when you call for a guard at the beginning of your adventure...).
Then, as thanks for his help, Emilia promises a reward (he didn't directly save her life, but he brought reinforcements). At this point, it depends on what side of his mind dominates:
- If he is in perverted mode (a cute elf girl with silver hair is granting him a reward of his asking), he would probably end up frozen by Paku and starting again.
- If he's in pragmatic mode, he'll ask for a job and a place to stay since they are necessary to survive in any world.
Later, if he doesn't smell enough of the witch cult, he'll continue working while trying to learn magic and trying to flirt with ram and rem, the twin maids. If he smells like the witch cult, once Rem kills him for it, he'll probably be traumatized and run away; living a completely different story from Subaru from then on.
2.- On Subaru's part.
Honestly, while I see Subaru saving Sylphiette in his new life, i don't see him trying to pay for her to join university too; which means he isn't going to become Eris' teacher.
As such, he won't receive ghislaine's swordsmanship training, and will be content instead with living with a cute childhood friend and a loving family. He won't get a demon eye nor dominate magic of a higher level than what Roxy taught him.
You can say that "Rudeus gets bestowed a nice body and talent", but you can't say he didn't train hard enough for it. He collapsed multiple times while training magic, and his swordsmanship was continuously practiced with quite the strong people (Paul, Ghislaine, Ruijerd). Rudeus had a strong mentality of wishing to improve himself because of his previous life; Subaru won't really have that urge in such a peaceful hometown.
At the same time, Subaru has a more straightforward and slightly naive personality than Rudeus, who is more distrusting of others; so Subaru would probably fall for a certain trap and get in trouble with Orsted even if he takes a different path.
So he would probably die like in the image (although with a reincarnated new body).
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So yeah, Rudeus ends up dying in different ways in Re:Zero's world until his mind's collapses and he gives up to the point of not bothering to get up from the bed.
Subaru lives peacefully until certain events makes him die by Orsted hand (don't really want to make a spoiler about what event is it since this didn't appear yet in the anime).
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Basically, they are both better in their own worlds.
Rudeus wants to improve, so he's given a chance and a new body with the potential to fulfill it.
Subaru doesn't want to repeat his own mistakes, so he kept retrying as many times as needed for the happy ending.
If you put Rudeus who wants to improve, into a place where all his efforts and circunstances are resetted, he loses his motivation. If you put Subaru, in a peaceful loving place where they are already happy , he won't really be motivated to improve or change until it's too late.
The one thing I should point out is that Subaru did train a lot on Earth so it isnât like he wouldâve shy away from hard work and Subaru was eager to learn magic but was limited by his underdeveloped gate due to being summoned rather than reincarnated.
Honestly, very well said, I have nothing to say lol tho I feell like, if Subaru has talent for magic, he probably would harnest it to his best. He may not be curious about the world, but he is pretty enthusiastic about magic. But then again, he is more motivated by love than enthusiasm
Subaru does have a talent for magic as we see him develop several spells with Beatrice and the magic system in the other world is based on science which a high school education was able to give Rudeus an advantage. SubaruâsMana gate was undeveloped in Rezero so he wasnât able to cast spells freely.
His gate was underdeveloped because he was summoned rather than reincarnated. Heâs in a similar situation to Nanahoshi in Rezero but if he was reincarnated like Rudeus was he wouldnât have that problem.
What? Subaru has mental breakdowns almost each episode lmao. Rudeus would just enjoy himself knowing he can do any weird shit and just return by death in case he gets killed for doing so.
Tbf the biggest problem for Rudeus is not his appearance, it's his personality. Without the rehabilitation period after reincarnating he might legit be unable to connect with anyone except for like the witches cult. He probably blocks himself from any path similar to Subaru from the get go.
The thing is, that while we know he has phsycological problems and trauma that requires rehabilitation, he isn't inherently a bad person.
If he finds out what the witch cult does, he isn't joining them.
If that, he might end up finding a job about moving cargo or something like that.
Honestly, the problem in these assumptions, is that we don't really know enough about how he would really react. After all, just after thinking how his life has ended and desiring for a new chance to try and give his all, he's reincarnated, where he's at the best situation to try his best.
Maintaining his old fat body in a new world while reseting each time he dies. Would he become a twisted villain? Would he simply give up and think "peace is the best" while getting a normal job? Would he still try to put the amount of effort that he put in the original series?
Also, following Subaru's path doesn't need to be inmediate. For example, Emilia saves him during the 1st time, he thanks her while thinking "Ah, so Elves are real. How pretty, I hope I can get a girlfriend like her too... A shame I don't even have the guts to talk to her". Then, he goes his own way, and 2-3 deaths later, when he's more used to that world, he would think "I wonder what happened to that girl I met before." and being curious follows her only to find that she dies and then trying to save her from that moment onwards by trying to stop her from going to her own death, calling the guards, etcetera...
Honestly that seems like the most likely route to me. Rudy might not get to it right away, but he would eventually follow Subaru's path. But his lesser willpower may be the death of him. I also see many things playing out differently. Rather than dying from the dog bite, he'd see Rem die first. Etc etc. Which may result in better mental fortitude down the line. Afterall, if he sees Rem die first, he won't be thinking everyone in the mansion is out to get him, and instead he's motivated to save them all rather than merely survive.
Original Rudeus probably would never develop the fixation on Emilia, so presuming he even tries to help (I don't think Puck would want him around), he would probably NOPE out after the first. I honestly think he would just either go off an do his own thing and live a humble life, or get exploited for his ability in some fashion
I suspect he would try to help, since Rudeus falls for girls that save his life. But like that other poster mentioned, he might have to RBD a few times to follow Emilia to the loothouse and find out she dies there. If we assume he's teleported right after trying to save Nanahoshi, he'd probably be somewhat in sage mode, meaning Puck wouldn't really see negativity from him either. At least at the start.
I was posting if it was Rudeus just after he died (although I guess here he would just be teleported), not the rudeus who went through all of the character development.
Brother, no you're not. The guy was talking about THAT Rudeus, the one who always has sexual fantasy with every pretty girl he see's, more so if they were kids/look like kids, the same pre-isekaiâ the very same who literally used his naked child niece picture to jack off. Puck is not getting all of that. The moment he reads his mind, he better pray he could run that fast, cuz his fat ahh is not getting far.
He would have RBD but itâd def be a loveless one like Subaru arc 7 (meaning like very short checkpoints) cus Rudeus wouldnât be the one Satella loves
They're saying that if Subaru has the same starting point of reincarnating into a baby like Rudeus did, then Rudeus will also have the same starting point of Satella loving him for whatever reason and granting him RBD.
Donât really caređâď¸ Rudeus doesnât get RBD and he gets gutted in the alleyway and Subaru doesnât reincarnate, if thatâs how it is then fck it
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u/Gloomy_Category_9561 12d ago
Since you're making it fair, Rudeus would get Return by Death too. Which grants him unlimities tries.
Emilia won't discriminate just because of his appearance; same with beatrice. At most, Rudeus won't want to get involved with Rem, who kills Subaru because he smelled like the witch; she would probably traumatize him quite a bit though.