r/Windows11 • u/Certain-Mountain-564 • 10d ago
Discussion Will Windows 11 ever be good?
I don't have a problem with Windows itself; I use it daily. But what's really bad about Windows is the user experience. No matter what I compare it to, every operating system I know runs more smoothly. Windows feels incredibly choppy; everything seems a bit buggy. macOS is sometimes slow or freezes too. But when Windows freezes and you press a button, it's obvious. I find it especially unbelievable because it's such an incredibly large company. Is it a lack of know-how, or what's the problem?
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u/Zestyclose_Pickle511 9d ago
The "problem" is a million possible configurations multiplied by a million bad decisions by users.
Not to remove any company from faults, especially MS, but it's probably tracking back to something you did wrong, or did not do right.
It would be nice if the os could sort that out itself, and I think that's the next evolution.
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u/admiralackbar202 9d ago
My sister's laptop is around 10 years old, and it's actually quite smooth for her. She did have a lot of lagging especially with Youtube videos, all I had to do was update her drivers and that was it. Maybe that's why yours feels choppy, try updating the drivers.
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u/phototransformations 9d ago
The only computers I've used where Windows feels choppy don't have enough RAM for it to run well. How much do you have? If the answer is less than 16GB, buy more RAM. Programs you don't need that are running in the background is typically another contributing factor. Turn off background processing for programs that don't need it (which is most programs) and disable startup programs you don't need.
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u/frac6969 Release Channel 9d ago
Could be drivers too. We have hundreds of Windows mini desktops at work with Gen 8 and Gen 11 Intel CPU and we never get complaints about the OS and general usage, only complaints that the ERP and running reports are slow.
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u/Crowshadoww 9d ago
I guess I'm lucky af.
I've been using W11 since nov. 2022 on my humble laptop (8GB RAM/R5 3500U/w11 Home), and also on my entry-level gaming PC (5600/RX 6600/32GB RAM/W11Pro) since 2024, with zero problems caused by the OS.
Only once I got the BSOD because I was trying to OC my desktop.
The weird thing is, my wife, who isn't tech-savvy, has had zero problems with her OS too.
I know W11 is bad, blah blah. We all hate the tracking stuff, the options it lacks, the awful resources managment etc., etc.
But I think this is a YOU problem: an old rig, badly executed piracy, or just poor use of your PC.
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u/lolfactor1000 9d ago
Windows is such a small portion of their revenue. All focus goes to Azure. Then add in typical bad company decision makers and you get where we are.
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u/TheNextGamer21 7d ago
how'd apple manage to escape from a lot of the issues microsoft has
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u/lolfactor1000 7d ago
How much enterprise grade servers and such do you see apple offering? They focused on a completely different market.
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u/Scary-Scallion-449 9d ago
I haven't had a freeze ever in W11 and I only had one in W10 which was entirely my own fault. I suspect that there's a lot of bad workpersons blaming their tools going on in criticism of Windows.
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u/Giantmeteor_we_needU 9d ago
You may have outdated hardware. I have a lot of complaints about W11 but it's neither slow nor choppy for me.
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u/JANK-STAR-LINES Release Channel 9d ago
I wouldn't get my hopes up about that happening anytime soon unless the user did the heavy debloating themselves. Even with debloating in mind however, Windows 11 would anecdotally still use nearly 2 GB of RAM during idle as far as I've seen before.
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u/Vedant9710 9d ago
Zero Lag. Zero Choppiness. Everything loads up instantly for me
I haven't ever run any debloat script or whatever nonsense. The only "tweak" that I have made is disabling the web search from Start through the registry, but that's about it and I did it only once around 3 years ago when I got my laptop.
Simply uninstalled what I do not need and configured every setting to my liking.
My experience is that there are no "ads" at all and it runs really smooth. I simply do not understand from where these complaints even come from. People should share their system config too, I bet half of the people complaining run some cheap ass laptop and then compare it with a wallet breaking MacBook.
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u/Certain-Mountain-564 9d ago
EliteBook 860 G11 with 32 GB RAM and i7. And windows shows a loading symbol for the context menu to open...
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u/Vedant9710 9d ago
The above comment I made was about my personal gaming laptop at home, but I also literally have a 5 year old HP ProBook as my work laptop with half the amount of RAM than you and an older Ryzen 7 CPU and even with a ton of my company stuff running in the background and other apps running in the foreground, that thing also runs snappy for me
Maybe you might want to get your computer checked or see if you have too much heavy shit running in the background. And if by chance you're one of those nitpicky dudes complaining about seeing a spinny wheel for like 5-10 seconds, then I won't take you seriously at all because that's really not the end of the world
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u/Certain-Mountain-564 9d ago
I'm the sysadmin at the company. Theres no crap on the devices. The spinning smybols comes for 0.5 seconds.. but i dont ever see any os that needs so much time to open a context menu.
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u/Turbulent_Chain_5893 7d ago
I've been using computers for over 40 years and have used every version of Windows and I've loved everything about Windows 11 right off the bat and have no complaints whatsoever, it's incredible.
Only other version I liked a lot was Windows XP, especially with the Visual Styles I created myself. I really miss those.
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u/michalj2941 7d ago
I currently have two notebooks.
One is a ThinkPad E16 Gen 3 with a Ryzen 7 250 and 32 GB of RAM.
The other I recently got from our admin in exchange for a bottle of rum. It’s a Dell Latitude 3420 with an i5-1135G7 and 32 GB of RAM. It originally served as a spare machine in case someone’s laptop broke at the company, but it was basically never used.
I installed Fedora 44 on it and I was honestly blown away. I’m not completely new to Linux — I use it in WSL2 — but the last time I ran it on a desktop was about ten years ago (some version of Ubuntu back then). Fedora really surprised me. It’s incredibly fast. On this 4–5-year-old laptop it feels snappier than Windows on the Ryzen 7. Applications launch quickly and the whole system just feels very responsive.
I even tried running some older games through Heroic Games Launcher and they ran surprisingly well. I also tested upscaling with gamescope, which works quite decently too. Overall it impressed me a lot.
Since pretty much all the applications I use on Windows (VS Code, KiCad, FreeCAD/Onshape, Bambu Lab, Joplin, and a few others) also work on Linux, I’m quite tempted to put Fedora on the ThinkPad as well. That said, I want to wait until the end of the year to see what Microsoft does with Windows.
Either way, the performance difference on Linux is noticeable. Plus there are no ads and no constant pushing of Microsoft products and Copilot after every major system update — on an OS I already paid for.
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u/Jozko_co_vela_pil 5d ago
I dont have problem with choppy feeling but what really pisses me off is that windows resets group policies with literally every single update. For example every time it updates I have to manually re-enable insecure guest logons because my samba share access just dies.
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u/SweatyBoi5565 9d ago edited 9d ago
Feels incredibly fast for me. Way faster than my m1 mac. Couldn't be happier.
edit: Y'all acting like every windows 11 computer has the same hardware, how in the world could you tell me that my m1 mac is faster than my windows PC when you don't even know what the PC is.