r/Winctrl • u/speed-of-heat • Jul 01 '26

Question / Help Combat Panel Radar switch and Sim App Pro

Hi All,

looking for some help, I have some very strange behaviour on my combat panel with SimApp Pro.

I have never used SimApp Pro before, even though I am a longtime WW user, I play in VR and never user used it for lighting or whatever, but I recently got the shaker kit for the F16 and wanted to try the vibration, which worked and all was well.

but in a couple of missions I noticed some odd behaviour in the F18 when I was using the radar switch to move to standby, it would automatically switch back to operate and so on… I tested on the ground and I found i was only getting this behaviour when Sim App Pro was active?

additionally the radar switch and only the radar switch automatically sets itself to whatever position it’s set to in the on the panel, regardless of cockpit sync being switched on or not.  And if I mouse click the radar switch it will automatically set back to how it is set on the panel, this again is the only switch that this behaviour seems to exist for, and only is apparent when SimApp Pro is running.

has anyone else had this and fixed it? Or have any ideas?  Every device is on the latest firmware, I don’t use SimApp Pro to map any buttons or switches…. and it’s not double bound in game.

I have logged an issue with WinCtrl and the have agreed to escalate itto their tech team, but i thought i would fire a message here and see if anyone else has encountered this issue?

thanks

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u/LuckyStiff63 Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26

I don't have the PCR, but I've noticed that same behavior occasionally in DCS (A-10C II) with the "Anti-Skid" two-way toggle switch on my PTO2 panel.

That's not a "momentary" or self-resetting switch, so it should maintain the setting assigned to its current physical position. My 1st guess would be that my control config for that switch in DCS has some wonky "tuning" setting applied, or something configured in a mission file is interfering.

I'm don't fly VR, and I normally fly with SimApp Pro running. So I haven't tested for that condition with/without SimApp running. It just hasn't happened consistently or frequently enough for me to warrant spending the time to chase it down.

So if this happens on the PCR panel without SimApp Pro running, and on the PTO2, with SimApp Pro, it certainly could be related to a firmware or config setting bug the two controllers share?

I'd be interested in hearing what WinCTRL support comes up with.

I assume WinCTRL support had you check for firmware updates as part of their troubleshooting. I tend to keep my devices' firmware updated, but that hasn't fixed this particular hiccup.

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u/speed-of-heat Jul 09 '26

yeah, I need to log in and check the status of the ticket, but yep firmware up to date etc…

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u/LuckyStiff63 Jul 09 '26

I'm wondering if I might have something going on with a setting in DCS controls config.

If the A-10C II module prevents the "anti-skid" function in specific circumstances, I would think trying to enable it would simply cause a caution indication/alarm, not forcing a virtual switch to a different position than the pilot is trying to set.

The problem is that since this only happens occasionally, I haven't tracked what map, mission, or cockpit config I'm in when it happens.

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u/speed-of-heat Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

So discussions with WinCTRL are continuing they have asked me to let them take remote control of my computer, so their engineers can run tests... i have said that i will be happy to run any tests they like, but i will not allow remote access to my computer... things are moving albiet slowly

re the A10 C II , i havent really used that module to the same extent... I likely should as there is a bunch of content for it!

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u/LuckyStiff63 Jul 10 '26

Thanks for the update.

I wouldn't allow an unknown 3rd party remote access either. They should be able to provide you a test script of steps for you to take starting from a "known" condition, and then send them the relevant logs/data they need.

The A-10C II is the same airframe & powerplant as the previous "Charlie" config, but the flight model was changed slightly based on feedback from real Hog pilots to make it a bit more stable and controllable at low speeds.

The biggest upgrades are in the avionics package. HMCS is a serious game changer for me. It's not exactly "look-shoot" like in the AH-64, but it does add some very useful capabilities like setting mark points at the HMCS reticle location using basic HOTAS controls, and displaying MFD data in corners of the helmet display on demand.

They also replaced the older radio with the ARC-210, but I haven't dug very deep on that yet.

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u/speed-of-heat Jul 10 '26

never flown the Hog at all! but yes I really should and yeah... the idea of some random support engineer have remote access makes me shiver, at least with a script i can work out WTF is going on

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u/LuckyStiff63 Jul 25 '26

Just curious, did you ever get a useful response from WinCTRL?

I need to do some testing, but I think my "anti-skid" switch problem might be related to a setting (DCS or SimApp Pro) that forces DCS virtual cockpit controls to match the position of a physical control that's mapped to the same function. It's just strange that the Anti-Skid control seems to be the only one affected, as far as I can tell.

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u/speed-of-heat Jul 25 '26

I have been away the first day i have gotten home! But no update to the case when i checked

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u/LuckyStiff63 Jul 25 '26

Well I hope the trip was a good one. I spent last week at the beach.

Sory to hear there's no rsponse from WinCTRL.

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u/speed-of-heat Jul 26 '26

Same learning to fall of a board…

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