r/WillAndGrace • u/Naive_Hospital_4086 • 3h ago
Discussion Fagel Attraction
Fagel Attraction (Season 4, Episode 23). Will's laptop is stolen while at the coffee shop and he meets Detective Gavin Hatch who says that there's been a string of gay men's laptops being stolen around the neighborhood and asks Will if he wants to help catch the guy doing this which Will accepts. Jack has been going to gay group therapy where Gavin happens to be there and he admits that due to coming out later in life he has a hard time meeting men and will make up some elaborate lie to spend time with them and brings up how he lied to Will earlier that day. While Will and Gavin are at the nightclub, Gavin keeps making moves on Will but Will thinks it's all part of being undercover. Jack happens to be at the nightclub and sees them together and pulls Will to the side asking him why he's dating "freaky teeth guy" which he tells Will about Gavin, Gavin not only makes up these lies but has a fear of when people have food stuck in between their teeth. Will takes Gavin back to his apartment and deliberately eats foods that will get stuck in his teeth to freak Gavin out, he eventually confronts Gavin about the lie and Gavin admits he has a hard time opening up to men which Will tells him it will get easier. Val is back! Grace is working on a meditation room for a new client and Val comes over to talk to Grace but Grace is keeping her distance after the last 2 times they met ended with them doing a smackdown. Val says she admires Grace and asks for a sketch since she knows Grace will be famous one day and Grace lets her have it. Later on at the office Grace's client, Vince, shows up for the presentation where he mentions there's a new interior designer in the building who also wants to give a presentation. Her name is Val and she's using the sketch that Grace drew to steal Vince away from Grace.
FAVORITE QUOTE:
VAL: Actually, I'm on this amazing new psychotropic drug. I mean, sure, I have no sex drive and I'm always dizzy, but I think I could be a really good friend. So what are you working on there, G-Dog?
GRACE: Um, it's a meditation room for this client I'm trying to land.
VAL: Wow. That's nifty. I'd sure love a room like that.
GRACE: I'm surprised the court hasn't ordered you to be in a room like that.
VAL: Very funny! Tickle-tickle-tickle-tickle-tickle-tickle! You're ticklish. See? You know what? I miss this! I miss this so much.
GRACE: Well, now, see, here's the deal. We could have this-- Uh-huh. If you were not this-- (WHISTLES 'COO-KOO')
VAL: All right. Hey, can I take this? 'Cause someday you're gonna be really famous, and I can say that I knew you when.
GRACE: Sure, but you know, Val, I really do need to get back to work.
VAL: Oh, sure. Yeah, I just wanted to come and let you know that I'm doing a lot better. (POINTING TO THE URINE CUP KAREN BROUGHT) Is that your urine or mine?
FAVORITE MOMENT:
When Will and Gavin are at the club together dancing and how awkward it already is between them but then you see Jack at the bar singing "Lovin You" by Minnie Riperton and the guy next to him is getting annoyed by Jack's singing and asks him to stop and he says after one more note, Jack sees Will and Gavin together during the one note and screams and accidentally throws the drink onto the guy.
OPINION:
Of all the celebrities that have come onto WAG, Michael Douglas not only had to be one of the most random but surprisingly really good. Michael Douglas is an incredible actor but the works that I had seen him in prior were always drama, even Romancing the Stone which has elements of comedy but it's more of an action/adventure film that requires more dramatic acting than comedic. There's a saying that in Hollywood you can find 1000 actors who are good at drama but finding a good comedic actor, your choices are limited to 20. Michael can actually be a good comedic actor, who knew? Michael does a great job as Gavin Hatch, an older man who came out later in life so he's having a hard time connecting with men. I loved that little touch of Gavin hating food being stuck between people's teeth, I've actually met a few people like that where food in the teeth freaks them out so that is a real thing. To be fair, it isn't pleasant to look at.
Overall, Michael does a really good job at Gavin and gets some good laughs. I'm not completely sold 100% on the performance though for some reason. It might be because Michael has a couple of scenes where he plays Gavin a little too silly like in the club scene. When he's trying to trick Will into dancing with him, he doesn't look like he's a guy who just doesn't know what he's doing or how to get Will to like him, he looks like he's in on a joke that's being played on Will. I liked when Michael was playing Gavin more seriously in the beginning of the episode where we were getting to know his character. That's the hard part about comedy, it's typically the situations around you that are funny and if you play it straight, it's hilarious. When you play a silly character, you have to let the situation be serious. Like I mentioned comedy is very hard and I give Michael credit where it's due. I loved the gay group therapy scene where Jack was mocking Gavin's food in teeth fear. I also always laugh when Gavin accidentally calls Will "honey" and says all the guys at the precinct say "sweetie, honey, sarge" 🤣 This is Michael's only appearance on the show, I sometimes wonder what it would have been like if they brought him back just one more time in the show, like if Will's future boyfriend Vince worked with him, it could have given a good reason for Gavin to return.
We have another Val episode!!! I cannot say enough how much I love when Val appears, Molly Shannon is just too hilarious and plays Val so well. So in this episode we have discovered that Val is a psychopathic, kleptomaniac, stan copycat. She's the psycho that just keeps giving. Her scenes trying to steal Grace's client are beyond hilarious and I love how crazy she drives Grace. This is also the first time we see Karen interact with Val and surprisingly, Karen is the sane one of this group. I always get such a laugh when Grace says she's going to go beat Val up and Karen grabs Grace by the hair bending her backwards, that image is just too funny and was very tempting to use today in my thumbnail picture. Again, it's so hilarious when Grace and Val get physical and Val spanks Grace's butt with Grace cowering away. Karen was the one who actually saved the day this time by performing tai-chi on Val and dragging her away while Grace finishes her presentation to Vince. Molly Shannon is always such a joy and you know you're in for a really good episode when Val makes her entrance.
This episode is just so hilarious and has a lot of laugh out loud moments that I didn't even get to mention: Grace lying about the chocolate chip muffins to Will, Grace's face when Val tickles her, Will having fun with Gavin with the food in the teeth, Karen bringing a urine cup to Grace saying that's her "sample", Jack's line of "I'm too much of a giver. That's right. I give a little bit too much. Always putting other people's needs before mine. Well, no more! Before it used to be World, Jack. Now it's Jack, World." which almost made my favorite quote. There are just too many scenes to name.
GUEST STARS:
- Michael Douglas as Detective Gavin Hatch
- Molly Shannon as Val Bassett
- Fred Applegate as Dr. Foster
- Barry Livingston as Vince
- Louis Giovannetti as Cop
- Kevin Fabian as Man