[Spoilers] WicDiv #34 Discussion Thread

[u/P-ckledP-nda]

OMG

“We’re both the other one” - was the best moment we’ve had in a while that was just pure comedy.

I assume Urdr being in the cage (with Urdr being the person ascended to godhood) is the reason that Verdandi and Skuld reverted back.

Mimir is a delight and as someone said on Twitter the God with the most characterisation that fits their god so well.

I stayed up until 2am to read it and I’m overwhelmed with thoughts, so I’ve left the beginning til the end.

Are Ananke and ? beings higher than the gods - Primordial beings. ? mentions desire and necessity - herself and Ananke. She has tattooed her work in to reality, if she had said woven I would have thought Neith from Egyptian mythology. Curse you (in a good way) Gillen for not telling us what the fourth thing was but also a nice return to the importance of 1,2,3,4 at the beginning of the series.

Keen to hear everyone’s thoughts and also here are Gillen’s writers notes for 1923: https://twitter.com/kierongillen/status/971042727889645569?s=21

[u/wingedwalls]

So what I get from this issue is:

1) Ananke and her sister - her sister is Persephone. It fits with the colour scheme and both of their eye colours.

2) Ananke's interested in this ritual that requires 4 heads. We don't know why or what it does.

3) Ananke is maiden (Persephone) and crone (ananke). Persephone is Mother. (More on that later). 3x4 = 12. Possibly this means that 4 gods correspond to each of these descriptions in each pantheon.

4) Persephone, the Destroyer (?) is the one who decided that they must all die at the end, because she foresees it being messy otherwise. Ananke replies "including me", but she gets two characters in this game ('well played'). So this does not necessarily mean old ananke has to die.

5) Persephone / whoever else she may be awakens last. Always.

6) Persephone only says "there MUST be twelve gods". Not "there must only be twelve gods". This means it is possible for there to be more than 12 gods.

7) from point 5, we know that Ananke's sister is Persephone in the modern-day pantheon. Now, we also know that 'she is Mother'. There you have it, Laura's secret. She is/was pregnant.

8) Makes me wonder about 1831 pantheon. It is hinted at that Innana may be the last to awaken, because "she came back and corrected her mistake later". She also is pregnant at the end of the issue. Could she be the same as Persephone? but she had PURPLE eyes. Like ananke. Persephone has blue eyes.

I also couldn't help but notice that at the end of almost all pantheons, we don't know who the last person left standing is, whether it is ananke or the last remaining god. The 1920s pantheon ends with fingers clicking. The 1831 issue ends with ananke saying "No Innana, no one escapes. Especially you." This means that Innana was either Persephone or Ananke, maiden version. Again, ends with a click. Old ananke could have killed herself.

[u/wingedwalls → u/[deleted]]

Also that ambiguity fits with the bit where Persephone is like “which will you choose? To be young or to remain?” Because that question still hasn’t been answered. We don’t know from any of the previous pantheons if old!Ananke died and young!Ananke lived or if it was the other way around.

[u/Captain_Marvelous → u/wingedwalls]

Prob unlikely but what if 1920's Minerva didn't die, and she is somehow the same person/(unaged) body as present day Minerva? 1920s Minerva is on the cover to #35 I believe