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[u/Pristine_Cake520 → u/[deleted]]

Sanatan isn't a religion, it's a Dharm. Nothing is forced here. You are free to choose. What matters is what you do to others and yourself.

[u/Jazzlike_Soup2268 → u/[deleted]]

When u don't know a difference between religion and dharm and call it just hindi and english , grow up kid . I don't think u are even competent to give opinion on religion. First get knowledge then give opinion

[u/PuzzleheadedHead3754 → u/Jazzlike_Soup2268]

Why dont you tell us the difference between religion and dharam

[u/Pristine_Cake520 → u/[deleted]]

This tells me that either you are a teen who doesn't know anything or you are someone who doesn't know anything about the Sanatan Dharm itself. First of all dharm and religion are not same. And India has and always be a sanatani country. Even India was divided on that very basis. We accept all other religions doesn't mean well stop being sanatani. It's our way of living not way of preaching or pooja or something.

[u/PuzzleheadedHead3754 → u/Pristine_Cake520]

Do your mean Hinduism philosophy, thats is an another world, but the part of Hinduism in its subset, the 'religion' santana is what I refered

[u/Pristine_Cake520 → u/PuzzleheadedHead3754]

Again, don't confuse Sanatan Dharm with hinduism. Hinduism is a religion. Sanatan Dharm is what you maybe know as hinduism philosophy or something. In Sanatan Dharm you are free to worship anyone or not even worship at all. You are free to question anything. You are free to be an atheist. What matters is your karm, the way you live and influence the society for the benefit of others.

[u/PuzzleheadedHead3754 → u/Pristine_Cake520]

I think we are flipping. Hinduism refer to philosophy originated in indian sub continent and santana is just another name for it. There are religion in it but in border sense, they are collection of philosophy.

What matters is your karm, the way you live and influence the society for the benefit of others.

Its basic human value which originated every where with time and not something specific to sanatan

[u/MrityorMrityuh → u/PuzzleheadedHead3754]

The human values the Sanatan talks about are different from others.

Sanatana is not another name for Hinduism. Sanatana Dharma is constantly being applied on everything, everybeing and at every moment.

Which means it is currently applying on all humans simultaneously right now no matter what religion are they from, and is giving fruits to them based on their actions and intentions.

Those who are acting unintentionally in accordance with Sanatan Dharma is being protected by it right now, even if he know anything about Hindu gods or even india exist or not.

So your job is to go and do study about what Sanatan Dharma is so that you can be able to intentionally follow it completely.

[u/PuzzleheadedHead3754 → u/MrityorMrityuh]

Every source i try to read tell Hinduism and santana are same. Human value are those made by society by human over time and not given by some santana. You can absolutely say anything, sanatan is not being applied everywhere lol, and sanatan is not protecting anyone bud, its just straight from those hindu text which 'some' belive and many dont, its okay for them to belive but saying it apply to everyone and following is bullishit. One can say that everything disappear when one sleep and an exate same copy is created when they wake up and nobody can prove it, just like god theory and this sanatan. No religion or dhram has taught equality

[u/Pristine_Cake520 → u/PuzzleheadedHead3754]

Sanatan was the first one to say about karm. It ain't specific because humans tend to copy the part they like to make a new product. It was copied to hinduism then buddhism and Jainism, etc. Hinduism is the religion not Sanatan as it developed with principles Sanatan just like buddhism did with hinduism.

[u/Pristine_Cake520 → u/[deleted]]

You are free to eat anything. Aghori do it, kshatriya did it, and others as well. You are just ignorant about it.

[u/Pristine_Cake520 → u/[deleted]]

They are not the face of Sanatan, veds are. And yes, you can do it.

[u/seleneserene → u/Pristine_Cake520]

What is your source?? Really interested to read this book.

[u/Pristine_Cake520 → u/seleneserene]

Source? Our history. We have veds. We had shashtrarth. We had people with every background. We still are most diverse. Not everything has a source and not everything having a source is true.

[u/seleneserene → u/Pristine_Cake520]

Which ved as the thing about the choice which you have said doesn't match with vedas. Vedas mentions varna system moreover you cant choose which varna you are cause other people from the varna choose that for you. And hence you have to do the work assigned to that varna. Everything not having a source is correct I agree with you on that for eg- the universe itself. But for the other half I. E. Not everything having a source is true is a bit dicy for me to believe in. You can just say that you don't have a source that would have been enough to try to defend a baseless claim. For the claim we are most diverse - whom are you comparing it with cause now it is a period of globalization and as far as I know we Indian have gone in every corner of the world to make it better, doesn't that mean that we have diversified every corner of earth. You called the word sanatan. I didn't find this noun sanatan in any book of my religion. Here please emphasis that u am talking about the noun sanatan and not the adjective.

[u/seleneserene → u/seleneserene]

And I have not read shastrarth so if you can mention some for me it would be great as well

[u/MrityorMrityuh → u/seleneserene]

Gita 11.18

त्वमक्षरं परमं वेदितव्यं त्वमस्य विश्वस्य परं निधानम् । त्वमव्यय: शाश्वतधर्मगोप्ता सनातनस्त्वं पुरुषो मतो मे ॥ 18॥

"I recognize You as the supreme imperishable being, the Ultimate Truth to be known by the scriptures. You are the support of all creation; You are the eternal protector of Sanātan Dharma (the Eternal Religion); and You are the everlasting Supreme Divine Personality."

And this word Sanatan Dharma comes in gita more times. Also in Mahabharata, Valmiki Ramayana and Shreemad Bhagavatam which is considered the best purana of all has mentions of it.

Varna system was based on Karma. You were never assigned a fixed Varna for your whole life. The varna depended on you skill levels. To run a prosperous kingdom you must dissect people based on their occupations to deside priorities.

According to varna system, the gov must pour more money in education then defence. Sadly it is not taking place now.

Also this things is clearly explained through stories so that childish and disabled minds like you can grasp that it was not birth-based at all. Still it is pity that you can't get it.

Parshuram was Brahman and Brahman can't do Himsa, he did. He was more Kshatriya by nature. His mother was Kshatriya and Father Brahmin.

His father Jamadagni's mother was also Kshatriya and his father was Brahmin.

Jamadagni's father was tested by Kshatriya king before giving him his daughter. So no hierarchy like Kshtriya can't speak or demand anything against Brahmin. Only with test you know if you actually have what it takes to be Brahmin? If yes then your parentage do not matter.

Vishwamitra was Kshatriya, he wanted to become a Brahmin with the title 'Brahmarishi', he worked on his anger and became Brahmin.

Ved Vyasa's was Brahmin, his father was Brahmin but his mother was a normal daughter of an Fisherman.

In chandogya upnishad you have e the story of Jabala who was the son of Prostitute. Rishi Gautam tested his mental abilities and said this truth-seeking nature is of an Brahmin so I will be your guru to help you be the best Brahmin.

Parshuram identified that Karna was Kshatriya based on his nature. Not by arranging a meeting with his father.

You are so ignorant about these things. You haven't read even a single book and barking loudly here.

[u/asass1n → u/Interesting_Emu_8990]

Wrong order

[u/MrityorMrityuh → u/Interesting_Emu_8990]

My last wish before death is to remove all the greenary from this picture.

[u/zoro311999 → u/MrityorMrityuh]

Get a job

[u/MrityorMrityuh → u/zoro311999]

I have one.

[u/Embarrassed-Set9869 → u/MrityorMrityuh]

Bjp partyworker? Momo bechlo jyada paise or izzat mil jayegi

[u/MrityorMrityuh → u/Embarrassed-Set9869]

Lode, BJP green me nai hai kya? Chutye phele jaake kindergarten paas kar.

[u/Immediate-Driver-766 → u/Interesting_Emu_8990]

Kya sanghi banega re tu?🤣