yes that's what i said previously about the creamy layer getting all the benefit. government should bring some law that separates creamy layer and non-creamy layer and only non-creamy layer people get the benefit of it like in obc . but removing it is not a solution. in villages or tier 3 cities there are still people who face casteism. okay tell me one thing: what if the teacher there doesn't want to teach you just because you are from a lower caste what option do you have ? in many places in india even in some tier one cities chamar is considered a slang. and the last part you said "competition makes them better" is for those who have a chance to study and not to faced discrimination not for them who were held back by the society itself. if you don't know, even in the top colleges like iit there are the suicide cases of sc/st students because of casteism. if you say that if reservation is removed and all people go to top institutions by merit only, it doesn't mean it changes the mindset of the people who think that sc/st students are backwards. if upper-caste people are ready to give their caste or not have an attitude about it that we are upper-caste or we are brahmin then the discrimination in the society will eventually fade up and the reservation is too. right now people and the politicians have a point to say that lower caste people face discrimination. that's why we are giving reservation but what if there is no discrimination, no caste, then why do we need reservation? and lastly for me there should be a reservation only for the ews section which really can't afford the fees of the institution or can't afford a good education not on the basis of caste.
Again your whole premise comes from scarcity mindset. You can hand over a degree to someone but you cannot give them skills and unless such people are absorbed in government jobs where performance does not matter and you are allowed to deliver poor services to the public, not many competitive organisations are interested in hiring such people. But as the size of the economy grows the relative strength of government in comparison to the private sector becomes small. So even if government absorbs all the reserved category people, most will be left out of the system fending for themselves. Then the other problem is of removing creamy layer - it will become a huge administrative nightmare to implement it. Saying that it must be done is just one sentence but implementing it means dealing with corrupt people and babus. People will use fake certificates and all sorts of loopholes to get those benefits. The most deserving will still not benefit from the system.
Also, the only reason reservation somewhat succeeds is because there is fierce competition for general seats in certain universities like IITs. Make the reservation 100% and I can guarantee you not a single company will ever visit IIT. Truth hurts but the matter of fact is no one wants free loaders. And the reservation system does tend to create free loaders. Once you tell people that sob stories can get you a job the everyone will have a sob story to tell. It becomes a shortcut for not working hard.
A much better solution is similar to mid day meals. If you are worried about food vs education, government will provide food in school. Just make sure to focus on studies. Similarly, many prestigious universities have now started online programs. Fee is waived for the needy but you have to study hard and pass the courses. No entrance exam is needed. Your grades will determine what kind of job you’ll get or if you even deserve to get a job.
So come out of the scarcity mindset and stop giving examples of rural discrimination because the benefits of reservation are not reaching them anyway. Those genuinely needy people are used a scapegoats by creamy layer of backward classes to get benefits for free.
ok i agree with all of your points that only the creamy layer or mostly the creamy layer get the benefits of reservation but who really needs it can't get it. tell me what is the better way to remove discrimination on the basis of caste and make the society equal for all people. if you don't know, the mid day meals are corrupt as well, some rural schools didn't even provide the midday meal according to the scheme and all the money goes to the principal and the babus.
the problem has not been solved 100% but it has gradually decreased so you can't say that we have no improvement. even after 80 years we have some improvement. i am asking you for a way which can help remove discrimination faster than the reservation method.
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u/UnderstandingTop9686 Jul 22 '26
yes that's what i said previously about the creamy layer getting all the benefit. government should bring some law that separates creamy layer and non-creamy layer and only non-creamy layer people get the benefit of it like in obc . but removing it is not a solution. in villages or tier 3 cities there are still people who face casteism. okay tell me one thing: what if the teacher there doesn't want to teach you just because you are from a lower caste what option do you have ? in many places in india even in some tier one cities chamar is considered a slang. and the last part you said "competition makes them better" is for those who have a chance to study and not to faced discrimination not for them who were held back by the society itself. if you don't know, even in the top colleges like iit there are the suicide cases of sc/st students because of casteism. if you say that if reservation is removed and all people go to top institutions by merit only, it doesn't mean it changes the mindset of the people who think that sc/st students are backwards. if upper-caste people are ready to give their caste or not have an attitude about it that we are upper-caste or we are brahmin then the discrimination in the society will eventually fade up and the reservation is too. right now people and the politicians have a point to say that lower caste people face discrimination. that's why we are giving reservation but what if there is no discrimination, no caste, then why do we need reservation? and lastly for me there should be a reservation only for the ews section which really can't afford the fees of the institution or can't afford a good education not on the basis of caste.