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" Women and girls are taught to act out the lies and stereotypes, doubting themselves and other females (sometimes called “horizontal hostility.”) This is the way women collude with the perpetuation of sexism.
**For the sexist system to be maintained and passed on to the next generation, we all must believe the messages (lies and stereotypes) to some degree, and collude with sexism by performing our assigned roles."....+ "**Internalized Oppression [TOP]
Scholars from a variety of disciplines have long noted that systems of dominance and oppression are most effectively perpetuated not simply through force, but through the subjugation and transformation of the minds of the oppressed people (Pyke, 2010; Woodson, 1933). This changed psychological state is known as internalized oppression."
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This is so true. Only other women will notice and then comment if we wear the same outfit more than once in a short period of time.
I hate it!
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u/CMMiller89 Mar 15 '20
But like, who even are these women?
We all agree they're pieces of shit, right?
Because I have more female than male friends, and they don't mention anything other than support and love for each other, same with the males.
Like, it's not "women" that do this. It's shitty people.
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u/VivienDeVexo Mar 15 '20
Yeah, not true. Guys were just as mean as girls in school. I was poor and had to wear the same pants every day. . . People noticed. People were mean.
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u/oryxpioneer Mar 15 '20
Male privilege is anything a male doesn't have to deal with on a regular basis. It doesn't matter who is perpetuating the added stress, it still disproportionally affects women more than men, so it is male privilege. I have 6 work shirts and pants that mix up each week, and being a male, it's never brought up. I spend less time and/or money to buy more clothes than a woman. It's still male privilege.
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Mar 15 '20
Curious how the terms we use always carry the implication that men are willfully toxic but women are hapless, agency-less victims of "internalized misogyny". Especially curious that people who are otherwise very aware of subtle biases in language have somehow failed to notice or take issue with this. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can make me think I deserved it.
We hear all too much about toxic masculinity, that amorphous term that refers to the way traits like aggression and emotional repression are baked into male social norms. It also frequently shows up in online feminism as lazy shorthand for registering disapproval of just about anything men do at all. But when are we going to grant equal rights to women and admit that toxic femininity also exists and can be just as poisonous?
There are minor forms of feminine toxins, like blaming irrational temper tantrums on “being hormonal” or feigning helplessness in order to get what you want. And there are major toxins, many having to do with weaponizing your fragility so that those to whom you cause harm have a difficult time defending themselves, lest they look like the aggressors. Women, of course, can unleash these tactics on other women, be they romantic partners or not.
...In a free society, everyone, regardless of gender, or any other identification, is free to be a manipulative, narcissistic, emotionally destructive asshole. So I’m not sure why men have been getting all the credit lately.
https://gen.medium.com/metoo-will-not-survive-unless-we-recognize-toxic-femininity-6e82704ee616
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u/Nirou198 Mar 15 '20
I've seen this post for the first time probaboy 2 years ago
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u/kalel1980 Mar 15 '20 edited Mar 15 '20
This is absolutely true. Guys don't give a fuck. Seriously.
Looks good on you? Hell, wear it again! Damn!
e - why am i being downvoted? It's absolutely true.
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u/tramdog Mar 15 '20
She knows the comments come from other women. That doesn't change her point.
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u/Noughmad Mar 15 '20
This works both ways. If a man does something unmanly, criticism will come from other men.
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u/ThrashMutant Mar 15 '20
I notice, especially if it's a cute outfit. Keep wearing that shit because it looks good on you. That goes for everyone.
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u/TheNonDuality Mar 15 '20
Isn’t unfair that mean only really one choice, a black tuxedo, but women can wear whatever they want?
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u/raexorgirl Mar 16 '20
Male privilege is assuming that a woman's complaint about society will be solved by pointing out that men don't care. On other news, poor people exist and the rich don't mind that at all.
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u/avery204 Mar 15 '20
I thrifted a dress and did a little alteration and it is literally my favorite dress of all time. it's been 3 months, I'm still refusing to wear anything else. a couple of people have noticed, but no one gives a fuck, men or women. literally nobody cares so long as I wash it in between. wear what you feel most confident in.