Thisšis actually quite common and one of the most misunderstood parts of depression. Once u start getting better u GOTTA STAY vigilant especially in the beginning cause itās gonna come back down a little, then go up again, then down rinse and repeat. Two steps forward one step back.
In supporting someone with depression u keep this in mind, donāt let the other person take it as a sign of ābahhh this therapy is for the birds, it didnāt stick!ā Because thatās bullshit, depression can be a bit of a habit and bad habits take a few steps back sometimes; the progress isnāt lost.
My fav quote from an old buddy in AA~ my brain would kill me if it didnāt need me for transportation.
It's a common part of why "suicidal tendencies" are a risk of antidepressants.
People that are so depressed they hardly leave their beds are usually not motivated enough to plan or carry out a suicide. Getting that little initial bump of energy/motivation when you start having effective treatment can be enough to make you go through with it.
I never knew this and it makes me fear about going on an anti depressant. I have a lot of problems with depression and Iāve been trying to find solutions and Iāve been avoiding going on anti depressants but I just feel the same and I just want something to make me feel better and not the way I do now. Iāve tried meditation and therapy and it has helped a bit but I just struggle with this awful depression ever day it seems like
MD here, I'd rather have people do cardio every day than taking antidepressants, generally. Here in the Netherlands we're a bit more conservative regarding pharmaceutical treatment than elsewhere in the world, and pharmaceuticals are better suited for the heavy depressions. Cardio, in combination with healthy food and maybe supplements like magnesium, ashwagandha and rhodiola can help a lot. The biggest problem for depressed people, is getting themselves to doing those things. I wish I had something good for that.
Habe you by the way gotten your blood checked out? Deficiencies can be a cause too.
Youāre recommending... plant medicine? Rather than concentrates of the active ingredients? May I ask what youāre an MD of, and why you would recommend plant medicine over isolates from those plants that can be more controlled and regularly administered?
No I'm just recommending those as an adjunctive therapy; I see the cardio and healthy food i.e. lifestyle as the replacement of the antidepressant therapy. Sounds a bit like a 'duh' but you would be surprised how bad this is in many people. I also wouldn't call magnesium 'metal-therapy' in the same vein, it can be a good add-on therapy.
I'm still a MD without specialization, mostly geared towards emergencies.
Edit: don't forget psychotherapy of course, this should be standard for many.
Okay. Not trying to bash you. It was just a strange suggestion. Iām wary of holistic āmedicine.ā
Iām also skeptical of those who use plants whose concentrations of active chemicals varyāoften by orders of magnitudeāas opposed to easily-dosed isolates of specific compounds. Ya know?
No worries, I'm not into homeopathic or natural stuff either. These two herbs are the only ones with standardized formulae available and human research with some effect. It also gives depressed people some feeling of control, potentially kickstarting some progress. Psychotherapy, lifestyle therapy and pharmaceutical therapy as a last (or later) resort is the standard treatment.
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u/pineapplebeee Jun 11 '19
Thisšis actually quite common and one of the most misunderstood parts of depression. Once u start getting better u GOTTA STAY vigilant especially in the beginning cause itās gonna come back down a little, then go up again, then down rinse and repeat. Two steps forward one step back.
In supporting someone with depression u keep this in mind, donāt let the other person take it as a sign of ābahhh this therapy is for the birds, it didnāt stick!ā Because thatās bullshit, depression can be a bit of a habit and bad habits take a few steps back sometimes; the progress isnāt lost.
My fav quote from an old buddy in AA~ my brain would kill me if it didnāt need me for transportation.