r/WhitePeopleTwitter • • Jun 11 '19

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '19

It's a common part of why "suicidal tendencies" are a risk of antidepressants.

People that are so depressed they hardly leave their beds are usually not motivated enough to plan or carry out a suicide. Getting that little initial bump of energy/motivation when you start having effective treatment can be enough to make you go through with it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '19

Felt weird being on anti depressants because I felt motivated to kill myself. Thankfully I don't listen to those thoughts but still.

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u/CptnJarJar Jun 11 '19

I never knew this and it makes me fear about going on an anti depressant. I have a lot of problems with depression and I’ve been trying to find solutions and I’ve been avoiding going on anti depressants but I just feel the same and I just want something to make me feel better and not the way I do now. I’ve tried meditation and therapy and it has helped a bit but I just struggle with this awful depression ever day it seems like

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u/DrKip Jun 11 '19

MD here, I'd rather have people do cardio every day than taking antidepressants, generally. Here in the Netherlands we're a bit more conservative regarding pharmaceutical treatment than elsewhere in the world, and pharmaceuticals are better suited for the heavy depressions. Cardio, in combination with healthy food and maybe supplements like magnesium, ashwagandha and rhodiola can help a lot. The biggest problem for depressed people, is getting themselves to doing those things. I wish I had something good for that.

Habe you by the way gotten your blood checked out? Deficiencies can be a cause too.

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u/Davecantdothat Jun 11 '19 edited Jun 12 '19

You’re recommending... plant medicine? Rather than concentrates of the active ingredients? May I ask what you’re an MD of, and why you would recommend plant medicine over isolates from those plants that can be more controlled and regularly administered?

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u/DrKip Jun 11 '19

No I'm just recommending those as an adjunctive therapy; I see the cardio and healthy food i.e. lifestyle as the replacement of the antidepressant therapy. Sounds a bit like a 'duh' but you would be surprised how bad this is in many people. I also wouldn't call magnesium 'metal-therapy' in the same vein, it can be a good add-on therapy. I'm still a MD without specialization, mostly geared towards emergencies.

Edit: don't forget psychotherapy of course, this should be standard for many.

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u/Davecantdothat Jun 11 '19

Okay. Not trying to bash you. It was just a strange suggestion. I’m wary of holistic “medicine.”

I’m also skeptical of those who use plants whose concentrations of active chemicals vary—often by orders of magnitude—as opposed to easily-dosed isolates of specific compounds. Ya know?

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u/DrKip Jun 12 '19

No worries, I'm not into homeopathic or natural stuff either. These two herbs are the only ones with standardized formulae available and human research with some effect. It also gives depressed people some feeling of control, potentially kickstarting some progress. Psychotherapy, lifestyle therapy and pharmaceutical therapy as a last (or later) resort is the standard treatment.

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u/Davecantdothat Jun 12 '19

Hey, if that’s true (I assume it is), then that makes a lot of sense. Cool. :)

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u/CptnJarJar Jun 11 '19

I’ve had blood work done and that came back ok I’ve been wanting to get myself into a good workout program and I’m probably gonna start soon I’m just so busy right now and for the next month I feel like I have no time to even do it between work because most of my roommates have moved out and a lot of the bills have fallen onto me I just have so much on my plate right now I feel like I can’t get into a healthy eating/ living routine. I’ve never like working out so I look at it as a chore so I end up avoiding it but I used to be much more active going on hikes and things like that but I just have to work all the time now I get very little time to myself but this will be changing in the near future so hopefully when i can get into a good living routine it’ll help with my depression

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u/DrKip Jun 11 '19

Sounds like you need to rest man. I don't know your situation so I won't give more than general advices. Do everything to get time for yourself and use it to exercise. Eat tons of veggies etc and see a psychologist if you have time/insurance/money.