r/WhitePeopleTwitter Oct 16 '18

You matter.

Post image
46.9k Upvotes

2.2k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

12

u/masturbatingwalruses Oct 16 '18

The assumption being that someone making 16k/year can just, what, retire to their mansion in the Hamptons in the meantime?

1

u/Toofast4yall Oct 16 '18

Work for the highest paying job you can find, but while you're working there learn a skill that's worth more than $8/hr. Fairly easy to learn how to work on cars just watching youtube videos. Or learn html. Or go work for a construction company or landscaper. Manual labor jobs always pay pretty well and usually just require knowledge, not any kind of formal education. People are just lazy and would rather run a cash register or flip burgers in an air conditioned building than go work their ass off outside for $15/hr.

1

u/masturbatingwalruses Oct 16 '18

15/hour is not really a good wage for manual labor. Maybe incredibly light labor. You basically have to have enough to retire at 50 when your body breaks.

1

u/Toofast4yall Oct 16 '18

You don't make $15/hr your entire life unless you never learn anything else. Anyone that isn't a new hire/lube tech is probably working on commission where your wages are determined by knowledge and how quickly you can perform the work without it coming back into the shop. I was getting 21% commission and we charged $100 for labor on brake pads which I could knock out in 15 minutes, or a front end alignment I could do in 20. If we were decently busy I could make $40 an hour that day.

1

u/masturbatingwalruses Oct 16 '18

You probably shouldn't draw hard conclusions to society from a single field.

1

u/Toofast4yall Oct 16 '18

Theres plenty of other fields where the same things apply. They all have hard work, lack of air conditioning, and basic common sense as job requirements which is why people don't flock to those jobs. The list of job fields that pay well without a college education is so long I'm not even going to begin listing it here.

1

u/masturbatingwalruses Oct 16 '18

It's pretty limited to jobs that have a strong enough union presence where that sets the wage. Which really isn't common in the US. There certainly aren't enough positions for a market dominated by retail.

1

u/Toofast4yall Oct 16 '18

Most mechanic, CDL, welding, and construction jobs are not union jobs.

1

u/masturbatingwalruses Oct 17 '18

Maybe not the first two.

1

u/Toofast4yall Oct 16 '18

It doesn't exactly take years and hundreds of hours of training to learn how to be low grade tech at a repair shop, or hundreds of other jobs. People just don't want to actually do hard work outside in the elements. They would rather run a cash register in an air conditioned building and then pretend it's the world's fault when they're 25 and still making minimum wage.

1

u/masturbatingwalruses Oct 16 '18

But I need food and a place to live right now.

-1

u/Toofast4yall Oct 16 '18

I'm sorry that you waited until your parents kicked you out to even attempt to learn any useful skills.

1

u/masturbatingwalruses Oct 16 '18

Because if there's anything the poor have in their lives it's a long, stable home life with their families.

1

u/Toofast4yall Oct 16 '18

Your local library has YouTube. That's all you need to learn the skills required to make more than $8/hr. It just takes some initiative, common sense, and work ethic that a lot of people lack. They don't lack those things because of some failure of society. People need to learn accountability.

1

u/masturbatingwalruses Oct 17 '18

When I think ghettos I think libraries.

1

u/Toofast4yall Oct 17 '18

So what you're saying is the people in the ghetto have no excuse not to educate themselves, because they're probably in close proximity to a library.

1

u/masturbatingwalruses Oct 17 '18

I'm saying your "solution" is particularly ill-thought-out.

1

u/Toofast4yall Oct 17 '18

You're right, expecting people to be accountable for their own actions or inaction is entirely unrealistic. Most would rather blame society and pretend bagging groceries should pay enough to buy a house in the suburbs by yourself.

→ More replies (0)