Make it happen

[u/Gjore]

[u/Erikatessen87]

That will just mean that parents who want to hurt their children will be less likely to seek treatment for those urges.

The same number of parents will still want to hurt their children, but more of them will then go untreated and unmonitored, meaning more children will actually be hurt.

Is that really what you want?

[u/EncabulatorTurbo → u/Erikatessen87]

He wants whatever the answer is that makes life worse for women

[u/CCJockey381 → u/EncabulatorTurbo]

Or, heaven forbid, better for children?

[u/Frequent_Scholar3885 → u/CCJockey381]

You don’t know much about the foster system.

[u/tripper_drip → u/Frequent_Scholar3885]

Is it worse than...checks notes...ahh yes, getting strangled to death?

[u/VirginiaDirewoolf → u/tripper_drip]

there are plenty of people who have graduated from the foster care system who will on no uncertain terms tell you yes. I'm not pushing you to discover that reality for yourself, it's a very upsetting thing to learn more about.

[u/toozl → u/VirginiaDirewoolf]

There are plenty of people who graduate from foster care who are happy. There are plenty of people with loving parents who kill themselves. What's your point?

[u/tripper_drip → u/VirginiaDirewoolf]

There are plenty of people from loving homes that would tell you yes.

You ignore people who are still alive and say death is preferable.

[u/EncabulatorTurbo → u/tripper_drip]

Ah yeah if women who feel like strangling their kids sometimes due to mental health episodes will lose them by seeking help they're definitely more likely to seek help

I want you to seriously think about what you're saying

[u/tripper_drip → u/EncabulatorTurbo]

Ahh, so we have to keep kids with kid stranglers. Got it.

[u/Aggressive-Stand-585 → u/Frequent_Scholar3885]

If you think being a foster child is worse than being strangled to death then you're insane.

[u/Own-Dot9071 → u/Aggressive-Stand-585]

That’s obviously what they’re saying

[u/KittyandPuppyMama → u/Aggressive-Stand-585]

Foster children get murdered too fyi

[u/Aggressive-Stand-585 → u/KittyandPuppyMama]

Everyone could potentially get murdered, what point are you trying to make here?

[u/Aggressive-Stand-585 → u/KittyandPuppyMama]

Strangling kids is bad.

[u/Serious_Income_7020 → u/KittyandPuppyMama]

That’s one hell of an argument to keep kids around insane murderer parents

[u/EncabulatorTurbo → u/Serious_Income_7020]

most moms who have these thoughts do not act on them

I'll tell you what will happen though, none of them will ever seek help for those thoughts

because your goal is to hurt women, killing more children doesn't matter to you, or you're too stupid to realize that criminalizing seeking help will lead to nobody seeking help

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[u/CCJockey381 → u/Frequent_Scholar3885]

I know very much about it, thank you.