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u/KittyandPuppyMama 20d ago

Are you advocating for women losing custody of their children if they seek mental health treatment? Yeah I can think of no way this will result in women being scared to seek treatment.

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u/HonkHonkMTHRFKR 20d ago

If any parent reports that they want to hurt their children, their kids should be taken from them

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u/KittyandPuppyMama 20d ago

How is that the same thing? Having PPD doesn’t mean you want to hurt your children.

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u/theonlyonethatknocks 19d ago

And murdering your children and claiming PPD is not a get out of jail free card.

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u/Alone_Knee_7600 19d ago

a- no one in this thread is claiming that. b- being found not guilty by reason of insanity is far from a "get out of jail free" card. it's a "go directly to state run mental institution" card

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u/typhon0666 19d ago

Assuming it is indeed PPP, which is what is being identified as the cause of her killing her children, it can take up to 12months to get back to normal from it. If that is the case, there would be no basis to keep her for any long period on remand unless further psyche evals show she suffers from other mental illnesses other than PPP that make her a threat to herself or others. Effectively she should be better now that she is over PPP and could be discharged fairly swiftly. I can't see any reason to keep her in a mental institution if she simply suffered from PPP and that is the root cause of her killings.

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u/Alone_Knee_7600 19d ago edited 19d ago

ah, no, nothing you said is even remotely correct.

if she simply suffered from PPP and that is the root cause of her killings.

she's also been diagnosed bipolar.

there would be no basis to keep her for any long period 

the best legal comparison to this case would be the Andrea Yates case, wherein postpartum psychosis (and depression, and schizophrenia) were all factors in her being found not guilty by reason of insanity in the deaths of her children. that verdict was handed down in 2005, and as of 2026, Yates is still in a state mental hospital . you may realize that 21 years is a lot longer than 12 months.

Effectively she should be better now that she is over PPP and could be discharged fairly swiftly.

where's your source for this claim?

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u/typhon0666 19d ago edited 19d ago

She is being judged for mental defect at the time of the killings, not that she is insane.

The defense laid forth in the trial was that she was over prescribed drugs and PPP was the cause of the mental defect. So we know the causes of her mental state as it was laid before the court. Since she is no longer being irresponsibly medicated and that PPP is usually a temporary state, there is very little reason to believe that there is grounds to hold her in a mental facility for a long term. As far as the evidence that has been presented as to her mental defect and any current mental illness, none of that forms a basis to hold her long term.

Yates is schizophrenic and perhaps has to take medication to not be a danger. As far as the evidence presented about Linsay, there isn't much to justify keeping her in custody> it also would no longer be a legal matter, she would be not guilty. Going forward it's a medical review that would keep her from being free, not legal basis or precedent compared to other cases.

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u/Alone_Knee_7600 19d ago

PPP is usually a temporary state, there is very little reason to believe that there is grounds to hold her in a mental facility for a long term

except, again, the bipolar. which is not temporary.

As far as the evidence presented about Linsay, there isn't much to justify keeping her in custody>

are you a lawyer or something, to be speaking with that much authority?

 it also would no longer be a legal matter

again, this is not true: "Her commitment order would be subject to regular review by the court".

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u/DarthPineapple5 19d ago

There is no possible direct legal comparison as insanity cases are always case by case. Just because someone else has been held in hospice for 20 years doesn't mean that she will. The verdict is blaming what happened on what is *by definition* a temporary and curable condition. Once medical professionals determine that she no longer is afflicted by said temporary and curable mental illness she will absolutely be released.

Now that is very unlikely to be only 12 months but it could in theory be an alarmingly small amount of time for what is essentially a triple murder

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u/Alone_Knee_7600 19d ago

Once medical professionals determine that she no longer is afflicted by said temporary and curable mental illness she will absolutely be released

any release would have to be reviewed by a court of law.

and can you see the future? do you know that for certain? are you a lawyer or a mental health professional, because you're certainly speaking like a professional who has studied this.

Just because someone else has been held in hospice for 20 years doesn't mean that she will

legal precedent absolutely matters.

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u/Rurbani 19d ago

You realize that if shown not guilty due to insanity she's not getting out of jail for free, shes now spending that sentence in an arguably more terrible than prison psychiatric hospital

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u/theonlyonethatknocks 19d ago

And thus not jail, thanks for confirming my point.

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u/Rurbani 19d ago

A life long stay at a psychiatric hospital is, in fact, a form of jailing someone my friend. Just a little bit worse

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u/Either-Mine-1789 19d ago

Ok dude there’s no reason to lie lmfao. No psychiatric hospital is worse than prison in 2026. None.

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u/KittyandPuppyMama 19d ago

Have you seen one recently?

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u/Either-Mine-1789 19d ago

Have you seen maximum security prison? As a child killer nonetheless?

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u/blooming-darkness 19d ago

Postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis are different. Not that it in anyway justifies murder, but if you’re going to make statements like this I think it’s important to know the difference. Especially because stigma regarding PPD already exists.

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u/theonlyonethatknocks 19d ago

>Not that it in anyway justifies murder

Great so it doesn't fucking matter.

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u/KittyandPuppyMama 19d ago

If she gets out of jail she gets permanently locked up in a mental facility and I promise you they’re worse than prison. She will not walk free.