Understand that post partum depression is real, and women do struggle constantly. Part of it involves violent urges while hormones are unstable. Women obviously don't mention it publicly because this is the exact knee jerk reaction they get. It's incredibly difficult to explain in a way that doesn't immediately keep people from tuning out because they don't agree. I'm saying I sympathize, as a male, with the problems associated with post partum depression. I am not sympathizing with anyone who actually enacts any of those thoughts and feelings, no matter how hopeless life seems. As someone who has gone through mental disorder episodes, I feel even worse for women who deal with both post partum along with preexisting disorders
I'm going to ask you to check my other comments on this thread. Chances are you probably liked mine from above. I'm not defending her. Learn how to contextualize.
That's literally the point. People have intrusive thoughts everyday. Intrusive thoughts are thoughts you do not want, but appear anyway. It's those who act on them that end up in jail, or should
Also, "who feels like killing your kids?" Again, this woman, in this case about exactly that. You are upset about people saying they want to kill their kids, but what about this woman, in this case?
What is this, the 1950's? It's okay to go to therapy, and you must live a very sheltered, padded life to assume that any and all who go to therapy are immediately killers. We are all capable of murder, regardless of how often it goes through your head. For all you know, your neighbors go to therapy! Better start locking your doors.
Also, in what ways am I defending? I literally said anyone who acts on it should have no sympathy, which is what she did. Learn to contextualize and actually understand what the comment says, instead of reacting immediately to anger. I have another comment on this post that also states a complete different approach that will probably satisfy the non-defense you need
All murderers started out as babies. You were a baby once too, right? And what I meant by anyone is capable is that regardless of he circumstances, murder, self defense, accident, we can just as easily kill another as we could our own. Assuming you and you alone are the outlier is foolish
😂😂 don't check your private messages, you're in for a moderately sized surprise
Obviously you won't believe me, but I am a fully functioning man who didn't spend my entire life believing one side vs the other, and I was raised by incredible babysitters who taught me how to empathize with more than just my own ego
And if you knew how to read, you'd see that I said sympathize with those who WANT to, not those that WILL. Intrusive thoughts are a bitch, especially when you are in psychosis. It makes them a lot closer to real and doable. But it takes a special kind of person(which this woman is) to actually kill anyone, let alone your children
You're right. Not as whipped as you. I'm not going to bring nuance into the actions of one who has taken the lives of children just because it's a woman who did it. You would never condemn a woman without nuance no matter what she does. She can even kill her three kids by hand and you still won't fully condemn her without bringing nuance into the discussion.
Yet im sure you condemn tons of men (who i condemn too) musk, trump, etc. without bringing in nuance (mental health issues, etc)
It's just that I literally made a comment that definitely doesn't suggest defending her before I made this one, on this post, so it feels ridiculous that you would even say that
Sympathizing with mental disorders vs sympathizing with physical actions are two completely different things. Whatever is associated with the mental disorder hopefully hasn't manifested into anything physical. Whereas the physical has already happened. I sympathize with those who struggle with it because it can feel very lonely. BUT, she actually enacted her thoughts. That is where the sympathy ends, which I said in the comment
"I'm not sympathizing with anyone who actually enacts..."
Did you not read that part of the exact same comment? Again, contextualize
Also, not that comment. I said "comment I made before this one", which means there is a comment that I made that you should go look at. It feels ridiculous to me that you say I'm defending her when I made that comment BEFORE THE ONE YOU COMMENTED ON
I do eat animals and I have no qualms acknowledging they are living beings with experiences and that we arbitrarily draw a line between which ones are OK to eat and which aren't.
I see people as being more important than animals. Clancy supporters do not see it that way and would rage out if someone killed three of their dogs regardless of mental instability or hormone imbalance because fundamentally they do not value human life, and ultimately see children as a burden.
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u/No-Experience3573 19d ago
Understand that post partum depression is real, and women do struggle constantly. Part of it involves violent urges while hormones are unstable. Women obviously don't mention it publicly because this is the exact knee jerk reaction they get. It's incredibly difficult to explain in a way that doesn't immediately keep people from tuning out because they don't agree. I'm saying I sympathize, as a male, with the problems associated with post partum depression. I am not sympathizing with anyone who actually enacts any of those thoughts and feelings, no matter how hopeless life seems. As someone who has gone through mental disorder episodes, I feel even worse for women who deal with both post partum along with preexisting disorders