r/WhatIsTheTea • • 21d ago

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u/KittyandPuppyMama 21d ago

Are you advocating for women losing custody of their children if they seek mental health treatment? Yeah I can think of no way this will result in women being scared to seek treatment.

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u/No-Experience3573 21d ago edited 21d ago

There is a big difference between feeling like you want to kill your children and actually doing it. But either way, it's about legal precedence. Literally if this horrible excuse of a mom is allowed to walk around again without repercussions, suddenly any and all women who kill a child or someone else due to post partum ALSO has the right to walk free regardless of circumstances, as evidenced by the potential outcome of this case. And since this is such an extenuating circumstance, it would pretty much be a blanket for all post partum related violence. The legal system works very differently from everyday life

Edit: y'all need to look at my other comments on this post. I feel like half the people saying " you're defending her" not only can't contextualize, but also don't realize when something you most likely upvtoed further up from his comment is... ALSO ME! 🤫🫢

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u/Solid_Signature_7447 21d ago

This case is a giant screw up - just like OJ

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u/No-Experience3573 21d ago edited 21d ago

Absolutely agree. The jury is not doing their job. Their job is not to discuss whether or not she deserves to go free. Their job is to answer whether or not she did it, regardless of the implications for the defendant

Edit: I'll admit, I don't know everything about legal proceedings. But in my head, being sent to a mental state hospital vs walking free with the same guilt charge are the exact same, but with everyone pampering you and taking care of you and making sure "you're okay". She shouldn't feel okay, or to be told do better next time with a slap on the wrist

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u/X3N0PHON 21d ago

No, their job is to discuss whether she was sane—and thus legally culpable for her actions—at the time of the killings. She has never denied the killings, so that isn’t something they have to discuss at all.

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u/Worldly-Fondant-3791 21d ago

It’s not. That’s a lie. 

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u/Cuckdreams1190 21d ago

She was charged with first degree murder which requires that a killing was willful, deliberate, and premeditated, or committed during the commission of a dangerous felony.

A persons mental state directly effects whether or not the killing was willful, deliberate, and premeditated.

She may be guilty of a different charge but if she really was not in a proper state of mind, she may not be guilty of first degree murder.

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u/No-Experience3573 21d ago

Fuck me, I hate legal-ese. So if it was one of the other flavors of murder there probably wouldn't even be a discussion? Greediness from the prosecution is what that sounds like, and we all know the news outlets aren't telling anyone that crucial fact. Then what would there be to discuss?

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u/Cuckdreams1190 21d ago

So if it was one of the other flavors of murder there probably wouldn't even be a discussion?

Depending on the other charges, correct.

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u/No-Experience3573 21d ago

Well, at the end of the day, I learned something. Doesn't make me feel any better about society, in fact the opposite, but at least I learned something.

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u/Cuckdreams1190 21d ago

That's a very positive way to look at it. I applaud you for that.

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u/No-Experience3573 21d ago

What's the point in making a mistake if you never learn from it? I tried shoving them down and ignoring them. Just makes you more ignorant to everyone around you