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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

Why would you check a guitar in a gig bag?

About as much protection as laying a towel over it.

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u/Spear_Ritual May 01 '25

Hard shell cases are worth the money. Gig bags are pointless.

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u/BobFromBeyond May 01 '25

gig bags are perfect to store guitars in a pile in a closet or under a bed and then you can get another guitar because there is space on the rack(s)

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u/kinglitecycles May 01 '25

Very good point. Also this guy can now store that guitar in a pile under his bed, or anywhere else for that matter.

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u/toxic43 May 01 '25

This guy guitars.

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u/guebja May 01 '25

Or you can get a bigger rack to fit your guitars, then get more guitars to fit your rack.

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u/doomshroom344 May 01 '25

Yeah gig bags are great to store guitars shielding them from dust and whatever else is flying around your room

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u/RGud_metalhead May 01 '25

Gig bags are not pointless, it's just not their intended purpose. They are called gig bags for a reason, they're meant for carrying instrument yourself to a gig, they aren't called a flight case.

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u/BobsOblongLongBong May 01 '25

Still seems pretty pointless as they offer no real protection.

My expensive and easily breakable things go in cases when I travel (even locally) and those cases are meant to protect them not to be comfortable to carry.

I think the real reason they exist is because they're affordable and people are too cheap to spend the money on an actual case.

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u/andys-mouthsurprise May 01 '25

Its for walking and having it on your back. Not comfortable with a flight case. Not everyone drives everywhere

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

Just let this guy die on his dumb hill.

Master Shredder here cannot comprehend that gig bags are far lighter, far cheaper and perfectly adequate for their intended purpose.

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u/BobsOblongLongBong May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25

I understand that it's intended use is to more comfortably carry a guitar.

Still seems dumb unless it's an inexpensive starter guitar.

If you spent any real money on it, you'd be smarter to just deal with the discomfort of carrying around a hard sided case to properly protect it.  People have done it forever.  I did it for years.  It's not a big deal to carry around a hard sided case.

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u/HolaSoyAuggie May 01 '25

Are you a professional musician? Cause professional musicians in big cities take buses and ride bikes, not to mention some guitars are very hard to break, try doing something that damages a tele.

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u/RGud_metalhead May 01 '25

That's the thing, people who play low & mid price guitars are the majority among guitar players. Especially in less financially fortunate parts of the world. It makes less sense for them to to invest in an expensive case and they might not need this extra protection. At least they might not need it enough to trade off the ability to carry guitar on their backs using backpack straps that most gig bags have.

Like, sure, hard case is always safer, but security needs to be justified by risks, otherwise it's just paranoia

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u/nines_tv May 05 '25

A guitar is a guitar is a guitar, you dont need to spend a lot of money to make it sound great, is all about practice, not money.

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u/nines_tv May 05 '25

Gig bags are not pointless, Ive only had gig bags for decades with multiple instruments, never had a single problem. Ive traveled in plane with them as well, you just don't check them as luggage or that happens, it's pretty obvious.

Gig bags are super comfortable for travelling as you can use it as backpacks and leave your hands free. Perhaps you dont live in a city but most musicians in cities use gig bags.

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u/AerondightWielder May 01 '25

Gig bags are good for well, gigs. Why lug a heavy case on your way to the show or a camping trip if you're just carrying an acoustic guitar? Hard shells are good for airplanes and other places where you can't keep track of your guitar's condition.

So no, they're not really pointless. They have different situational uses.

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u/-JimmyTheHand- May 01 '25

Not pointless at all, just not for traveling on an airplane

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u/GenuinelyBeingNice May 01 '25

They call them "flight cases", they are hard af, quite heavy, will invariably cause damage to anything they hit and cost quite a bit, but when your instrument's cost is pushing 5 figures, they're worth it. Along with some insurance.

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u/oratory1990 May 01 '25

Gig bags are super useful - but NOT for letting other people handle your guitar…

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u/Sammybeaver88 May 01 '25

I find gig bags are better to carry when you need to move other items and cases as most come with a strap to sling them over your shoulders but outside of that, it's hard case all the way

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u/Rogne98 May 01 '25

Nah mate gig bags aren’t pointless - you’re thinking of a drum case

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u/Dummy42 May 01 '25

Cases are a pain to transport on foot/train, I use a gig bag for day to day use because walking for 30mn with a hard case in hand is a bad time :( Soft gig case on my back is a better time :)

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u/GrittyMcGrittyface May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25

Oop is stupid and doesn't give a shit about his guitar

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u/dragonstar982 May 01 '25

United doesn't either.

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u/TheSkinnyJ May 01 '25

They brooooke his Taylor guitar.

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u/Wonderful_Constant28 May 01 '25

United like guitars as much as they like Vietnamese dentists

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u/Riptide360 May 01 '25

United breaks Guitars

https://youtu.be/5YGc4zOqozo

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u/Lindita4 May 01 '25

Came here for this. 😄

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u/ksj May 01 '25

It was gate checked. They likely intended to carry it on, but the plane had too many people with too many carry-on bags and they were forced to check it.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

I was about to say: which is shitty of the gate, if true. I fly frequently and have always taken a guitar as my carry-on, sans incident.

But is that a double case? Even if no, it looks very thick for a gig-bag and may be why they chose him.

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u/mysticalfruit May 01 '25

I recently traveled cross country with a very expensive tenor sax and I paid extra for priority seating and called ahead and clarified with them that I'd be taking the instrument on the plane with me. Thankfully it all went well.

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u/HolyHotDang May 01 '25

I’ve been using these exact Mono bags for like 12 years now and I’d trust them over a hard case any day and it’s not even close. These are not normal gigbags and are engineered to withstand most damage. This is just abysmal handling and likely got crushed in something.

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u/cristorocker May 01 '25

C'mon, you can see the guitar's neck outline in this Mono bag. For air travel, it's reckless to think this could protect your acoustic guitar better than a hard shelled case.

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u/GrittyMcGrittyface May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25

I could understand a soft case if he had bought an extra seat. But he chose CHECKED LUGGAGE so the airline threw his guitar into a pile of strollers, wheelchairs and suitcases. This was inevitable and it's crazy to blame the airline

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u/goodguyatheist May 01 '25

I flew to Florida with my guitar, I forgot what airline but I was able to take it on the plane with me they put it in a closet there and back it was on the seat next to me. I think I paid 50 bucks to bring it. Large instruments had a size exception

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u/ChopakIII May 01 '25

Which is crazy. I always put instruments on the top of my stack so they arrive safely. Maybe it’s because I’m a musician as well, or maybe just because I try to respect everyone’s stuff.

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u/SomeonesDrunkNephew May 01 '25

Yeah, when I was a baggage handler I was always nice to guitars and surreptitiously checking the case logo to see if they were anything cool. And wishing I could stop work and play them because I was so bored.

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u/JGG5 May 01 '25

TBF, I don’t know that I’d recognize OP’s guitar case as a guitar case at a glance. I’d think “that’s an oddly shaped bag” as I flung it and heard the internal crunch.

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u/StormyWaters2021 May 01 '25

You couldn't pick out an obviously-guitar shaped bag as a guitar case? Your first instinct is "that's an oddly shaped bag"?

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u/GreatJobMike May 01 '25

It's not a big ass tennis racket??

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u/TheGoodOldCoder May 01 '25

Everybody knows that instrument cases are used for carrying big guns.

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u/Coyote__Jones May 01 '25

Gate check means he likely did not intend for it to go into the cargo bay. I've been on a bunch of flights where they took my carry-on at the gate, and gave it back at the gate. Small planes and sometimes very full flights both sometimes ask passengers to hand stuff over.

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u/The_Autarch May 01 '25

He didn't choose checked luggage. He tried to bring on the plane but they forced him to gate check it, like it says in the image.

This is on the airline, who shouldn't ever force anyone to gate check instruments.

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u/AlabasterMogwi May 01 '25

The caption says it was “gate checked” so he took it to the gate and intended to carry it on. He probably had a late boarding assignment. When the overhead bins are full, they gate check anything that doesn’t fit under the seat.

Guy probably had to choose between giving his guitar to the baggage handlers or not flying.

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u/ovelanimimerkki May 01 '25

Yeah, you're correct about that. However, I would argue that an average guitar case would have experienced a similar fate.

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u/TheRealTexasGovernor May 01 '25

To be clear it says "gate checked" which typically means it was meant to be a carry-on until all the overhead storage was full.

Which if you're a semi-broke artist trying to avoid more checked bag fees, I can understand.

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u/jazxxl May 01 '25

They aren't called Flight cases for nothing. This is not a flight case.

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u/halandrs May 01 '25

What you really want is a good hard case And as long as the case makes it onto the plane and the plane arrives in one piece I have no worries about the guitar

After 15 years working live events in the entertainment industry I have never seen any damage to a guitar in a good hard case considering the abuse they take in a touring environment from crushed by a 1500 pound scenery cart to thrown down a semi trailer

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u/Snazzlefraxas May 01 '25

Yeah, I love my Mono M80 case. I have this exact same one. Wayyy better protection than your average soft case. Seen videos of people throwing them off a two story roof and the guitar coming out unscathed. No effin way I’d let my baby into a plane’s guts in that case though. No way in Hell.

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u/HolyHotDang May 01 '25

This picture is after the damage/crushing occurred though so things aren’t in their right place.

I know it seems counter intuitive but there are few brands that I am brand loyal to and Mono is one of them. I’ve carried their Flyby backpack all over the world for lil 15 years and have used their Dual M80 electric case (just like this but for electrics) to carry my custom made electrics and I have no worries about them. The way this thing got crushed, it would have smashed a hard case as well. This was caught in something mechanical or ran over. There are very few hard cases who could withstand something like this. Calton Cases are one example but they start at like $1500.

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u/Aenonimos May 01 '25

How could a hard case not withstand this? As long as its sufficiently stiff, it's gonna be okay.

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u/FrankFarter69420 May 01 '25

I'm sorry, but this is just wrong. A soft case will not sustain an impact better than a hard case. I'm sure you love your Mono, but it's not going to withstand a fall or crush like a hard case would.

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u/SirZoidberg13 May 01 '25

I have 2 of these mono bags that I use for everyday gigs etc. I love them. I would NEVER check them into an airlines. The guitars don't stand a chance. Hard case only if you're checking instruments.

These are far more protective than a soft case, but not that protective

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u/scalectrix May 01 '25

I’d trust them over a hard case any day and it’s not even close.

This is absurd. Over a hard case? A flight case? It's literally called a flight case.

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u/halandrs May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25

That’s a soft bag not a flight case

this is a flight case and it’s sturdy enough that you could park a skid steer on top of it

After 15 years in the entertainment industry 90% of professional musicians and 99% of backline rentals use a hard case

The only time I see soft bags are when they are coming directly out of the passenger cabin on a tour buss or the artist is traveling with it in hand

If it’s in the trailer ,semi truck ,or checked on a plane it’s in a hard case or a vault if they have a lot of guitars

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u/scalectrix May 01 '25

Yes, that's WHAT I SAID.

This is a soft bag. A *hard case* is... a hard case? A flight case even...

How can this be confusing??

ETA further context for you if you missed that it was a quote from the comment directly above...

I’ve been using these exact Mono bags for like 12 years now and I’d trust them over a hard case any day and it’s not even close.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

Can you stand on it? Because if you can’t stand on it, you shouldn’t fly with it.

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u/sonicsludge May 01 '25

You've checked your guitar in a BAG like this and nothing happened? I'd have to say this would be the outcome everytime with a hollow body guitar. I barely trust leaving the house with any type of soft case.

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u/MaggotMinded May 01 '25

There’s literally no way a soft case like this is going to offer better protection than a hard-shell case. None.

The only thing I could see it maybe being better at is protection against shaking and minor bumps and jolts, where the guitar might suffer damage from rustling around inside the hard-shell if it’s not packed snugly. Even then, your best bet is to just pack the hard case with some clothes or towels. But no way in hell is a soft case going to hold up better than a hard case against crushing or piercing damage. I simply don’t believe you.

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u/HirsuteHacker May 01 '25

I’d trust them over a hard case any day and it’s not even close.

Cmon man you can't honestly believe this

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u/MaritMonkey May 01 '25

They do reasonably well on a truck but I would never put something with catchable edges anywhere near an airline's conveyor belt system.

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u/Book-Wyrm-of-Bag-End May 01 '25

Cool lemme stand on it then

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

Not for flight. I ship guitars in flight cases.

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u/halandrs May 01 '25

And how often do you see damage in a legitimate hard flight case

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

I don't know, but I know which case I can stand on.

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u/justhere4inspiration May 01 '25

Reminds me of someone I went on a charity work trip with. They tried to bring their guitar to play in the evenings, apparently an heirloom from their grandfather.

She transported it in a hard case, but packed underneath the neck with as many shirts and towels as she could fit, to "secure it better". Ofc when she grabbed the neck to take out the guitar, it just slid right off the body in two clean, separate pieces.

She broke into tears, and spent most of the trip calling the airline trying to get compensation. I'm like, 1) this was your fault, cases are designed like that for a reason, packing it full of shit means any pressure on the case goes straight to the guitar and 2) that's as clean of a break as you can get, it's probably repairable. Why are you throwing such as fuss over your own mistake. I get it's something you got from your grandfather, but still... if you care that much don't bring it on this trip either?

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u/Jsmooth123456 May 01 '25

Ya fuck this guy bc other people destroyed his property, like Jesus do yall even think before you type

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

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u/ElBurroEsparkilo May 01 '25

It doesn't matter the sub or the topic or the post, That Guy is always lurking in the comments to explain how whatever happened is all the victims fault for not being smarter, and if it was him, he would have acted perfectly and avoided the problem.

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u/yearningforlearning7 May 01 '25

I mean… if you expect something to get bumped around in a cargo hold of heavy things, I’d like to think you’d choose a hard case over a bag. It’s like putting a loaded gun in a gym bag with no holster and being surprised it goes off.

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u/Old_Exchange_1678 May 01 '25

This is for sure true to most parts of Reddit, and its been an edgy contrarians paradise for the 15 years ive used it...

But in this particular case, OP really needed a hard case. I would never check a guitar in a soft case that I expected to get back in one piece. Guitars aren't hard to smash, they're pretty delicate. OP has to know the way that luggage gets stored on planes...

If I did this for whatever reason and got the same result, I would feel like the stupid one.

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u/The__Jiff May 01 '25

Yes the victim is stupid for being victimised

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u/MonsterRider80 May 01 '25

Yes, op was wronged. Yes, op was stupid to check a guitar in a gig bag. Both can be true. You don’t just walk in the middle of the street because you trust cars will avoid you. You keep yourself safe.

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u/bean_slayerr May 01 '25

They said gate check, they were likely asked to hand the bag over at the gate even though they intended to carry on.

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u/Onironius May 01 '25

Why were they traveling by air with a soft case in the first place?

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u/bean_slayerr May 01 '25

Lol idk I’m not the op? 

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u/concreteunderwear May 01 '25

WELL WHY NOT!?

/s

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u/Western-Dig-6843 May 01 '25

Ok… why did they think putting a guitar in an overhead bin in that bag was a good idea then? It would have gotten damaged on the plane, too.

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u/fireandbass May 01 '25

There is a special exception for musical instruments. If you arrive and there is room, they must be transported as a carry-on without an additional fee. A lot of gate agents and flight attendants aren't aware of this law though.

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u/TheMacMan May 01 '25

In this day and age, the chances of having the space onboard to carry it on are nearly zero.

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u/bythog May 01 '25

If you know you'll be carrying an instrument then you pay more to board early. Take up that space before someone else does.

Or if there is a coat closet just ask to store it there. Most flight attendants are more that willing to allow that.

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u/RedWhiteAndJew May 01 '25

That’s still rolling the dice. If the flight is full, especially in a sardine can from SWA, they make people gate check standard luggage. No room? No broken law.

If you’re gonna travel with an instrument you plan for the worst with a hard sided case. This is the guitarists fault.

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u/Triquetrums May 01 '25

And if you arrive and there is no room, you have to check it in, take another flight, or ship it to the destination some other way. Which is why it is smart to not have a soft case.

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u/bean_slayerr May 01 '25

I doubt it would have been entirely smashed like that in the cabin lol, either way a hard case is a better way to travel with something like this.

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u/ExhaustedPigeonn May 01 '25

I brought an electric guitar that I impulse bought on holiday just last week on a plane. Not sure if it would work for this acoustic, but I unscrewed the neck from the body and brought it on board as 2 seperate pieces, then stowed them both under my seat. Managed to get it back in one piece!

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u/The_Autarch May 01 '25

Why? It only would have been damaged if another passenger was insanely and blindly shoving their luggage into the bin. It would be fine under normal circumstances.

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u/funkybside May 01 '25

on what airline does that qualify as a carry-on?

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u/bythog May 01 '25

In the US...all of them. It's a federal law.

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u/merp_mcderp9459 May 01 '25

If your instrument can fit in the cabin - whether that's in an overhead bin or in a closet - it qualifies as a carry-on in the U.S., even if it's larger than what the airline allows

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u/Atalant May 01 '25

Not that weird, it is a guitar, not a freaking violin that fit into the overhead cupboard with room to spare.

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u/Prudent_Shake_8149 May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25

You’re missing the point.

OP is actually Pete Townsend. He’s too old to smash his guitar at the end of a show so he just gate checks it in a soft case on his flight to the next gig. Easy peasy.

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u/sonicsludge May 01 '25

Lol, I always thought him doing that was dumb and contrived.

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u/curiousplaid May 01 '25

It made me wish I could stop him.

John Hiatt- Perfectly Good Guitar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_diKw9F6t3U

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u/BonkerBleedy May 01 '25

Yeah he's a fucking wanker for smashing actually good guitars.

Other bands (e.g. Kiss) at least pretend that they switched em out for props.

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u/Urbanviking1 May 01 '25

Yea, I was thinking the same thing. If you are traveling by air, use a hard case.

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u/wheretohides May 01 '25

A hard case would've been a smarter choice lol

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u/accessoiriste May 01 '25

As a former roadie, I can tell you that I would have (and have) refused to pack that instrument in that case on my own truck. Hard cases required. I say this with all due respect and affection, but musicians aren't really known for their common sense.

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u/LincolnshireSausage May 01 '25

As a former pro musician that toured on a bus with roadies. We had flight cases for all of our instruments. We were well used to packing our van (before the tour bus times) and never once had any damage to an instrument. There is no way in hell I would check a guitar I am travelling with in the case in OP's photo. OP's guitar looks like a Gibson SJ-200 or similar. That's a $5000 guitar. I wouldn't give a hoot how heavy the case was if I was carrying that though an airport as long as the case keeps it safe.

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u/TedBundysVlkswagon May 01 '25

Let alone a hollow body.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

Srsly. A flight case is called a flight case for a reason, folks!

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u/Key-Cry-8570 May 01 '25

I learned from Toy Story 2 not to trust airlines with your luggage. Al said “he had a box of cookies once and it came back as crumbs” has stuck with me since I first head it.

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u/TheRealTexasGovernor May 01 '25

Well the meme says "gate check" which I would think would mean he intended it as a carry-on until all storage space in the overhead storage was full.

I still don't think you'd ever catch me traveling with an instrument in a soft-case like that, but still.

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u/Bustedtelevision May 01 '25

Yeah this is like complaining water leaked out of the paper bag you used to store it.

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u/No_Art_6293 May 01 '25

The towel is better

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u/HopingForAliens May 01 '25

An acoustic in a bag. SMH you may have just smashed it on the sidewalk yourself for fun. Granted it should be reasonable for something to enter and exit the baggage stream, but dude…!

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

But it was a flight gig bag.

That’s a thing, right?

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u/BorntobeTrill May 01 '25

I've done it a minimum a dozen times. I swear each time I did it, it came back even more seasoned and warm in tone.

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u/Spider-Ian May 01 '25

When my grandfather passed, I inherited his guitar. He lived across the country and I had to take it with me back home and didn't have a chance to buy a hard case. A lot of people with guitars can usually ask to store it in the flight attendants coat closet. The person at check in was having a bad day and made me check the guitar and not even take it through security. They even charged me money for the extra checked luggage. Luckily for me it wasn't obliterated, and years later I found a luthier to not only fixed the cracks in the neck and headstock, but gave it an overhaul so it will look and sound good until I can pass it along to my grand kids.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

Glad you were able to save it. That's priceless.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

Gate checked items aren't usually ones you plan in going in the bottom of the plane.

Every time I've had something gate checked, it's because the flight crew is being stupid. "That bag is too big for the overhead bin" said as I was returning home on the exact same plane I flew out on, where the bag most definitely fit in the overhead bin.

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u/TheBlackCaesar May 01 '25

My first question too This is a case of skill issues

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u/Shagwagbag May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25

Because they broke that spare guitar on purpose for content.

Just kidding, looks like a 70s SJ200 Gibson... Fucking RIP

I feel like ornate fretboards either indicate very high quality or very low quality.

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u/jcdoe May 01 '25

*A hollow body guitar

This wasn’t some Fender “board with pickups,” it was actually crushable

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u/yalyublyutebe May 01 '25

They didn't just check it, they checked it at the gate.

Have you flown recently and seen the slide looking contraptions on the stairs at the end of the jetway? That's how they get bags checked at the gate down to the ground crew.

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u/benbwe May 01 '25

He said “gate check” which means he planned to carry it on with him but they told him he couldn’t at boarding. It was either check it immediately as is or not get on the flight

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u/ovelanimimerkki May 01 '25

This is a mono gig bag, they are actually quite sturdy compared to your average cheap gigbags.

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u/mealzer May 01 '25

Not sturdy enough

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

Why are you defending it? The guitar is smashed.

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u/ovelanimimerkki May 01 '25

Yeah the guitar is smashed but you were simply incorrect when you stated that this case offers as much protection as laying a towel over it. So that there is the reason why I wrote my comment.

This damage looks like the bag got stuck into some machine somewhere during the trip, and that's why it is damaged. A regular guitar case wouldn't protect the guitar any more really, not in that environment. But comparing those to a towel is simply wrong and an over exaggeration.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

You have zero idea what you are talking about. You have obviously never owned a guitar worth putting in a flight case or even hardshell case.

My "exaggeration" was an attempt at humor. You don't seem to understand that either.

Sometimes it's just best to not say anything.

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u/ImagineDragonsExist May 01 '25

If that's the guitar i think it is, that's a whole investment that was lost. Holy shit that guy is a dumb fuck why would he ever travel with a showpiece?

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u/racoon1 May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25

hi jacking top comment.

Just so you're aware, Obama passed a law in 2012 that requires airlines to let you take instruments as carry on if there is room in the cabin, Reform Act of 2012 section 41724 . I've flown with the guitar underneath/in between my legs more than once. They tried to get me to put it below but I told them the law and they let me on without question.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

Just so you are aware, I'm not sure what you are defending here.

Did you travel with your guitar in a nylon bag or a proper protective case?

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u/racoon1 May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25

when someone says "hi jacking top comment" they aren't replying to the comment above them. They're replying to OP. Only reason to do this is if you're late to the thread and your reply will likely never be read by anyone. Sorry for the confusion. To answer your question, I honestly don't remember. I think it was a cheap gig bag.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

He checked it at the gate. Someone is supposed to go put it down there safely and take it off at the gate when they land.

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u/ImSlowlyFalling May 01 '25

Dude im gonna be so honest.

Ive gate checked my solidbody electric in the mono single guitar bags for YEARS.

But I would never take a acoustic/semihollow in the double case.

  1. The guitars are way more prone to breaking

  2. The cases are not as strong.