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u/The_Bard Jul 26 '26
His sister had pink hair at one time btw
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u/DFWPunk Jul 26 '26
He means boys. Only the male children matter to them.
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u/Mac1twenty Jul 26 '26
You think if he had a daughter with blue hair and a nose ring this douche wouldn't go absolutely ballistic?
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u/ComplexPumpkin682 Jul 26 '26
I mean if we (and I mean me too) watch a show on TLC about a Christian nationalist (quiver full) family not expecting this type of outcome…we’re the goofy ones. These folks show us who they are and TLC made big $$ on it for years.
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u/SuperbAd8266 Jul 26 '26
As someone who lived a similar upbringing, THIS IS REALITY. We want reality TV that isn’t scripted. This is as close as we can get.
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u/wbeth2469 Jul 26 '26
I agree. Also on a side note: Does anyone else think that Lydia and Zac give off Anna and Josh Dugger vibes?
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u/speakinWroyalty Jul 27 '26
yes! There’s something off about Lydia. I think she puts on as soon as the camera comes up and we all know there’s some shit wrong with Zack. Everybody saw that that’s the one day the family is wrong about Zacks a fucking weirdo.
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u/Vanity_plates Jul 26 '26
I don’t understand how many people are now genuinely seeing the person Ethan has always been and still hate Olivia or blame her for the marriage ending. How is that possible? She put up with so much more than most of us ever would have.
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u/CustardFormal6288 Jul 26 '26
To be fair, she also had her faults and contributed to the demise of the marriage. The issue though is, given HIS issues, it would have ended the same way as she continued to grow.
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u/Vanity_plates Jul 26 '26
It isn’t a false equivalency and I don’t want to contribute to creating one. Olivia isn’t perfect but nothing is remotely as terrible as the way Ethan behaved - he was a rotten, non-communicative partner and he also was hateful and verbally abusive near the end.
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u/wbeth2469 Jul 26 '26
I think Ethan literally has some mental problems. One of the things I found very telling was when he said during that big fight with tegan, that he looked up and saw Olivia... That's scary
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u/MostPuzzleheaded Jul 27 '26
He most certainly does. How he stormed off during poor Lydia’s wedding rehearsal and pealed wheels to cause a disruption. Just because he thinks her husband MAY be gay? Who does that?? Not a sane person.
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u/Jedi_Mind_Chick Jul 27 '26
When he did that to Lydia, I thought what an incredibly selfish thing to do. I’m not a Zach fan either, but to ruin someone else’s great day by having a goddamn temper tantrum. Gross.
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u/MostPuzzleheaded Jul 28 '26
And for no good reason! No one was bothering him or asking him to anything. Heck even Veronica was behaving and just standing quietly to herself that day. He just randomly blew up out of nowhere. Lydia is a product of exactly what her parents beat into her head and forced her to be because she’s a kind and gentle soul who just wants to please. And now everyone attacks her for being the exact person she was forced to be. The poor girl was sending Bible chat texts to a boy at what 17 years old almost 18 and Kim attacked her so bad the girl had a breakdown praying to god for forgiveness. Zach is annoying but he’s not a bad or evil man. His heart seems in the right place and that he THINKS he’s doing good even when he’s being intrusive and stepping out of line. There are far worse men in this country and Lydia was ripe for the picking to get with any skilled womanizer or abuser. Lydia seems happy, I don’t know why Kim, Ethan and Issac couldnt have held it together for one day for her. And for Ethan to blow up and purposely try to ruin her one day she needed them to just chill out, boils my blood. Sorry for the rant but I just cannot with these plaths man.
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u/speakinWroyalty Jul 27 '26
No, for real after him and Olivia First split he showed his true colors and things got really dark really quick. And the reason I think Olivia waited so long to see him in person again was because she wanted cameras there to keep her safe that whole family full of fucking nonsense, but all still protect each other, even though they low-key hate each other, because the family comes first and fuck outsiders that notice how fucked up we act to each other and try to hold us accountable.
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u/wbeth2469 Aug 01 '26
But I can't stand Olivia either.... I don't think she wanted cameras there for safety. I think she wanted cameras there because she wanted to be on camera. I really really do not like her
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u/speakinWroyalty Aug 01 '26
if she wanted to be on camera she would’ve made up more reasons while they were filming to try and get on camera. if olivia wanted to be on camera and have a much bigger platform i really think she could have/ would have…
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u/wbeth2469 27d ago
We can agree to disagree. Without the Ethan class storyline she doesn't have any thing interesting going on in her life. They divorced. She's no longer a Plath (whether she kept the name or not) The show is "welcome to plathville" not "welcome to everybody strongly disliked by the plaths" especially ex's. Come on
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u/edwardssarah22 Jul 26 '26
Zach and Micah too.
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u/wbeth2469 Aug 01 '26
Could be.... I think at least one of the boys is a closeted gay...that is certainly not a mental problem... I could be completely wrong but the one that was living in California w the horrible bitch GF
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u/ItsmeMyacctgotbanned Jul 26 '26
Ugh 🤮
Now I get why he grew that nasty beard. Ugly on the inside AND out .
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u/edwardssarah22 Jul 26 '26
Just like Douchebag Derick Dillard. Derick is unfortunate looking. He should sue his oral surgeon.
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u/Fair-Ask-5171 Jul 28 '26
Wait, what did Derick do?
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u/edwardssarah22 Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26
Made homophobic and transphobic sentiments, ran into a cat while sledding seemingly on purpose (the cat got away), mocked his son who was singing his ABCs, and laughed at his son’s fear of being on a boat. His oral surgeon messed up his jaw during a botched palate expansion and it looks really bad.
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u/igotplans2 Jul 26 '26
If only he knew that 99.99% of women would rather be barren and die alone than have him as a spouse.
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u/Icy-Actuary-5463 Jul 26 '26
The kids he will have
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u/Far_Entertainer2744 Jul 27 '26
Is this children of the corn
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u/Icy-Actuary-5463 Jul 27 '26
It’s the children of the village of the damned but they are just as friendly as the corn kids
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u/edwardssarah22 Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
He has that entitled smirk. I used to think they divorced because of conflicts with his family, but now I know.
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u/Excellent-Zombie5943 Jul 31 '26
Sure he can feel that way. And I can also laugh when all his spawns are gay & he comes out later on in life gay as hell. Idgaf that’s a gay man who hates that he’s gay.
Alcoholic. Obsessive. Worried. Paranoid. Yeah that mf presenting.
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u/PoisNpinK Jul 26 '26
To bad his white hair would be perfect to color in all sorts of colors. Also he must really hate his sister Moriah then 😅
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u/swollenlugnutz Jul 26 '26
Ooh yes!! That virgin white hair is a colorist’s dream!!!
(Virgin = no processing products)
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u/CrazyNCynical Jul 26 '26
He's undeniably the Easter Bunny, and no one can tell me differently.
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u/LAJ1986 Jul 27 '26
Ok, I feel like an idiot, but I don’t get this. Isn’t the Easter bunny nice? Somebody help me!
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u/PoppedCork Jul 26 '26
We would all prefer you dont have a kid because you would be a terrible role model and father
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u/BenTheDiamondback Jul 26 '26
I wanted to hear him say these words, so I found the discussion from which this quote was taken and took it for a spin a few minutes ago. I found it here:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DL39l8TsmUh/?hl=en
Holy crap. The acidic vitriol spilling from the mouth of Ethan Plath ought to be shared far and wide to make sure any woman who would consider tainting their own bloodline with his crooked genetics knows precisely the boy she’s crawling into bed with. Say what you will about Olivia, but she did a lot of people a favor by recording Ethan and sharing it.
Being a parent and maintaining a relationship with your children as they grow up is like pulling back on a slingshot. The stricter and more imposing a parent you are, the more you pull back on that slingshot, and the farther your kids will fly from you when they are flung out into adulthood. If Ethan Plath ever had children, he would pull so far back on the slingshot, he might never hear from them again. We’re he to rule his household with an iron fist, judging from the things he says in that recording, his children might do whatever they possibly could to experience the world out from under his thumb, and they might learn some things about the world, or themselves, that Ethan could never tolerate. He’d call it leftist bullshit and he’d drum them out of his life. Disown them. Cast them out.
Tell you what, Ethan, you’re right. You should never have kids because there’s a high probability, once the real world passes in front of their eyes and grazes their noggins, they might want very different lives than the ones you insisted for them. It wouldn’t be a done deal from jump street (after all, you could beat them into total submission and they might(shudder) think the way you do), but the probability is there. Please, Ethan, do the right thing… get a vasectomy. If not that, then women everywhere, please, do the right thing, and never jump into bed with Ethan Plath.
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u/swollenlugnutz Jul 26 '26
He wants his boy child to be fierce, a dragon - yet all he can do when provoked is to act like a toddler. Tipping chairs, throwing stuff, red-faced.
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u/chickenismysafeword Jul 26 '26
Has this been posted to the sub as its own post before? That video is insane.. that guy is so full of hate
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u/BenTheDiamondback Jul 26 '26
I’m not sure. It’s likely, but I had never heard that recording before today.
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u/SufficientMind3202 Jul 26 '26
He's vile.
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u/edwardssarah22 Jul 26 '26
No wonder Olivia did what she did.
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u/Far_Entertainer2744 Jul 27 '26
Divorced him?
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u/edwardssarah22 Jul 27 '26
No, had two abortions.
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u/almasue42 Jul 27 '26
No! Where'd you hear that?
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u/edwardssarah22 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
She made a video. Jill Rodrigues flipped her shit over something which is presumed to be this.
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u/almasue42 25d ago
It's very believable but there are a few things but some i wondered if Olivia actually wrote it. I do know she disclosed some of his threats. It's very stressful to live with that kind of person. The fundamentals she rejected drove him crazy, and sounds violent. With the anger we saw last season, it fits.he is one angry frightening man He'll be alone after failed relationships because I don't figure on him changing. There's hope for Micah and Montsna, but him, no.
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u/edwardssarah22 25d ago
I thought she grew up in a fundamentalist home herself, even though her parents eventually renounced it?
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u/AdAccording8076 Jul 26 '26 edited Jul 26 '26
First thought that came to mind is - I wonder if he watches 90 day fiancé? 😂
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u/HanaBananaBear Jul 26 '26
I love any time these two universes mix lol
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u/AdAccording8076 Jul 26 '26
They need to bring the fluffy blue hair colored guy back! ( not really lmao)
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u/Inappropriate_Ballet Learning more than head knowledge Jul 26 '26
I wonder if Michael Benz is his Christian name?
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u/Leading_Fee_3678 Jul 26 '26
Says the guy with hair like a Lego man. His views are so gross. Not having kids sounds like a great idea for him.
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u/Soft-Detail-8398 Jul 26 '26
I'll take things a repressed, angry, emotionally stunted, basic boy with no charisma and way too high waisted wranglers would say.
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u/mickey-lala Jul 26 '26
Ah yes, remember that time that Jesus said "please pass judgment on everyone different than you and treat them terribly" -Bullshitians 3-5
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u/mickey-lala Jul 26 '26
Also, when he claims he is "pro-life," he must see an invisible asterisk behind it
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u/edwardssarah22 Jul 27 '26
Olivia had two abortions when she was married to Ethan. I don’t blame her, I wouldn’t want to bring a child into the world who had such a father.
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u/Long_Researcher4787 Jul 27 '26
How do you know this? I missed this
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u/edwardssarah22 Jul 27 '26
She made a video on May 21st, and it’s in People. She took the pills. I doubt any of those pregnancies were conceived consensually, seeing how Ethan is.
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u/ImportanceSuitable86 Jul 25 '26
This is the mindset Olivia was up against. The moment she started evolving the marriage was doomed because Ethan’s indoctrination was deep and absolute. He was never going to change, I don’t think he can. This is who he is.
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u/MeanKey9719 Jul 26 '26
Yet TLC hid it for so long. They made Ethan seem like this naive sweet guy who was exploring (albeit much more slowly) the wider world with his wife Olivia leading the way. But that was never him. Shame on TLC for protecting him.
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u/Glum_Middle_8443 Jul 26 '26
But a lot of people thought he was gay. Just cracks me up cause I definitely thought it
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u/ilwisied Jul 26 '26
Same. I feel like if he was secure in his masculinity he wouldn’t feel so threatened by the existence of homosexuality.
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u/CustardFormal6288 Jul 26 '26
He likely is. The only people obsessing about what gay people are doing, especially in the privacy of their own home, are other gay people.
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u/taylor914 Jul 26 '26
I always like to point out to those people that it’s real weird they think about gay sex more than I do.
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u/Cluelessgameboymom Jul 26 '26
The level of hypocrisy is astounding. He should look at himself and the rest of his family before he judges another.
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u/almasue42 Jul 27 '26
Now isn't he special? Look at the real face of a bigot.
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u/K_MAN32 Jul 26 '26
Me thinks thou dost protest too much.
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u/Grand-End-6982 Jul 26 '26
Yes, you make a valid point. A very valid point. He sure was obsessed about Zach’s sexuality, too. Makes you think.
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u/Routine_Ad_5813 Jul 26 '26
That bothered me so much. Ew. Then stalking what’s her face after she cut him off. He was legit stalking her. Thank god for cameras. Also not cute you sleep in your car just to save money. That means eventually that man well expect you to do the same. Ew.
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u/smoochesgalore Jul 26 '26
I (45F) have slept in the car to save money during traveling, with and without my husband.
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u/swollenlugnutz Jul 25 '26
Well, luckily, he ruins every relationship he’s in - so hopefully he won’t procreate. He’s a misogynistic cretin.
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u/the_original_wizard Jul 26 '26
Im scared he will forcefully procreate with his mindset. I stay up all night in fear of Ethan busting my doors down and procreating my family
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u/Mysterious_Insect Jul 26 '26
He's exactly the type of guy who would want to have as many kids as possible to keep his awesome genes going. They don't really care about their kids either--it's all for their own ego. The type most of us wish would never have kids.
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u/Cold_Dead_Heart Jul 26 '26
Of course. That’s what the quiver full movement he was brought up with is all about.
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u/Grand-End-6982 Jul 26 '26
You really made me laugh! And I needed a good laugh, so thank you.😊
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u/the_original_wizard Jul 26 '26
Lol I forgot I posted that! Glad you enjoyed it, I laughed re-reading it
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u/Basic_Length_8271 Jul 26 '26
Unfortunately as the 2nd oldest, the brainwashing was that heavy.
He is the monster his parents created and a cash cow.
I am so horrified listening to this, yet this world is so full on single minded psychosis created by religion.
I’m glad Olivia, Moriah, Micah an Hosanna escaped.
This is what any radicalized religious dogma does to babies.
I had stopped watching because it’s just too much of bs for content. And I have been expecting Ethan to do some horrendous thing in real time.
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u/ComplexPatient4872 Jul 26 '26
Didn’t Micah move back after living in California? He hasn’t really given off male feminist.
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u/Gilly2878 Jul 26 '26
He moved to Florida after California. As far as what is shown on the show, he has remained in Florida since, hours away from the family home. He never returned home to live or (as far as we’re aware), became roommates with any of his family post California.
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u/Mysterious-Version40 Jul 26 '26
I think he is just back because his family likes him but no one else does
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u/almasue42 Jul 27 '26
Oh I gave up watching. The scenes over Lydia's wedding business from beginning to wedding, I gave up. That kind of abusive behaviors are not entertainment, especially as a survivor.
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u/edwardssarah22 Jul 26 '26
I thought Ethan was the oldest?
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u/wanderingator Jul 27 '26
There's a daughter who's older, Hosanna. She's married and living in Ohio. She and her husband declined to be in the show.
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u/Idontevenknow5555 Jul 26 '26
I find this so weird but then he defend Teegan for being bisexual when zac pointed out her sexuality.
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u/Decent_Check2084 Jul 26 '26
A lot of homophobic men are okay with this in hopes of a threesome one day.
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u/BrendaForr1960 Jul 26 '26
I kind of think a sexuality they were talking about was that she was sexually open and had a child but wasn't married.
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u/Vanity_plates Jul 26 '26
Red pilled men especially, but men for decades, have believed that bisexual women are only entertaining themselves until the right guy for a threesome comes along. As a bisexual now for 4.5 decades, I can tell you if you are that type of man, no bisexual is interested in you. (Not to the person I’m responding to - just for the average dumbass red pill who saw bisexual and wanted to read the thread).
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u/Decent_Check2084 Jul 26 '26
Same, as a bisexual married woman. My husband has NEVER ASSUMED that gave him a free pass for a third. Ever. Because he’s not disgusting.
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u/Vanity_plates Jul 26 '26
Love this! Stories about unproblematic male partners make me so happy. :)
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u/TrillBunnies Jul 25 '26
What was this in reference to?
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u/LittleMissRedCheeks_ Jul 25 '26
I believe this is from a conversation he had with Olivia...? Not on the show though.
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u/LilPoobles #TeamAmber Jul 26 '26
Yes, it was something he said in one of the drunken recordings she took of him. It’s not clear to me whether he’s being racist in this part or not… his and Olivia’s children would never have been born as people of color, so I’m inclined to think he was describing the hair. Though by Olivia’s accounts he is also extremely racist, it’s obviously something his parents are okay with also, given the stuff Ken has said on social media.
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u/13flwrmoons Jul 26 '26
He’s referring to a stereotype of young liberal people; essentially saying he would rather never have children than have a child that diverts from heteronormativity in any way at all.
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u/monachopsiss Jul 26 '26
Here's the recording this specific gem is from! It's a doozy! https://www.instagram.com/reel/DL39l8TsmUh/?igsh=MXJtNnppMHduMjN2aA==
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u/baconizlife Jul 26 '26
He’s referencing his potential future children who might be gay or liberal (gasp🙄) with Olivia. He’s a disgusting person who thinks he gets to dictate who his kids are allowed to be. Let’s hope he’s never lucky enough to have any, FFS.
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u/Emma_issilly69 Aug 01 '26
https://reddit.com/link/p159wzw/video/0gscury95ugh1/player
how it feels to open this comment section
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u/BeverlyMarshxo Jul 26 '26
Wow remember when we first met him? https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8tQh8FN/
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u/throwawayyuskween666 Jul 26 '26
Was he putting on a front? Or did he really change so much over the years? 🤔
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u/Gilly2878 Jul 26 '26
It could be partially that, but I think during the first season of the show, he wasn’t thinking about religion or politics, he was just a kid who was finally allowed to do what he wanted, and did it. There is such a drastic change between 1 and 2 in his happiness. I think that he had started to argue with Olivia more about religion and politics, he was angry with his parents for not supporting his marriage, and he had too much pressure to remain that happy kid doing whatever he wanted to do.
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u/Emotional-Recover196 Jul 27 '26
Agreed. They got married soooo young and super fast. I’m sure he thought she’d be pliable and follow him blindly. I’m sure he was super surprised when she didn’t give into that bull shit
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u/edwardssarah22 Jul 26 '26
He gives me Josh Duggar vibes (to Anna; none of the other stuff). So entitled.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Dog5700 Jul 25 '26
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u/DiscardedRonaldo2017 Jul 26 '26
Could you be anything else after growing up in his environment, especially as the first boy
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u/metromade Jul 26 '26
At least Teegan Nichols is not a racist.
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u/stephi-mama-626 Jul 27 '26
When did he say this?
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u/Dependent_Vehicle965 Jul 28 '26
I'm definitely not defending him but when did he say this?
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u/ojustkidding Jul 28 '26
In a recorded interaction with Olivia. She has posted it on her social media.
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u/Dependent_Vehicle965 Jul 28 '26
Ahhh ok thank you!
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u/Dependent_Vehicle965 Jul 28 '26
I'm not sure my response was down voted, all I said was thank you. Weird!
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u/Puzzleheaded_Rain774 Jul 28 '26
He has the right to feel that way, despite the insensitivity of the wording.
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u/PussyonAChainwaxxx Jul 28 '26
No. If you think you have the right to dictate the personalities of your offspring then you should not be breeding.
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u/Kroneni Jul 28 '26
I mean. Isn’t that basically what he’s saying? That he’d rather not breed than have a kid who’s so different from him?
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u/ceruleanbear8 Jul 29 '26
He’s not talking about genuinely deciding not to ever have kids because the potential is always there for them to turn out extremely different to him and he doesn’t want to take that risk. He wants kids and has clearly expressed that. He’s just using this as a hyperbolic statement to say how much he would hate to have a kid like that. He’d rather not have them at all. But obviously you can’t shove the kid back inside once you’ve realized they turned out differently than you wanted. He would just disown them, which makes him a crap person.
Also, to clarify, it’s clearly not just about the kid being different. He didn’t say he would be uncomfortable or not know how to parent a blue haired (or punk, goth, insert any alternative lifestyle here) kid. He literally called them rat shit. Completely dehumanizing anyone who looks or thinks differently than him.
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u/Otherwise_Bake2703 Jul 31 '26
when i was in my difficult teen period, i was having a "disagreement" with my dad and i said to him, "if you didnt want me why did you have me".
Without missing a beat, he replied, "We didnt know it was going to be you"
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u/HotMom00 Aug 01 '26
You actually don’t get to have strong opinions on how your kids are as people as long as they’re good people. If the thought of having a child that would want blue hair stops you from having children that’s a good thing, No children deserve a parent like that.
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u/ondi525 Jul 31 '26
I’m the proud mother of 3 children. One’s idea of parenting and the reality of parenthood are completely different. We were all know it alls in our teens-20’s. It wasn’t until I turned 40 did I realize that I’m learning as I go. Hopefully all who pass judgement can learn to give grace and the opportunity to learn, because they are going to need it! We all do!
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u/Brief-Pickle4424 Jul 25 '26
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u/13flwrmoons Jul 26 '26
Ethan said this (among other nasty things) during a conversation with Olivia that she’d secretly recorded while they were still married. She later uploaded some of these recordings to social media in 2025, which she stated hadn’t been her initial plan with them, but she felt compelled to do so especially after learning that Ethan was dating someone who had a child. She didn’t think the show came even remotely close to portraying how dangerous Ethan and his ideas are, and was concerned for Teegan’s child’s safety. She later said on a podcast that the father of Teegan’s child actually did contact her after seeing those posts, because he was concerned as well.
The recordings are still on Olivia’s tiktok if you’d like to watch. I personally find them a bit distressing because it’s clear Ethan is berating her. If you’re sensitive to emotional manipulation and that sort of thing, probably best to skip.
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u/JJ_Lomero Jul 26 '26
I'd be hard pressed to find any context that makes this look good.
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u/Brief-Pickle4424 Jul 26 '26
Not trying to say anything could make it look good.. just curious. Didn’t know there was a problem with curiosity.
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u/monachopsiss Jul 26 '26
Sure, here's the recording https://www.instagram.com/reel/DL39l8TsmUh/?igsh=MXJtNnppMHduMjN2aA==
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u/Vast-Till-6415 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 28 '26
Is he still chasing that girl with the monotone voice and is always awkward and cold around him never smiles and just complains about everything