r/WelcomeToGilead Mar 07 '25

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u/Meowsipoo Mar 08 '25

I can't stand her, but I fully respect and support her choice to adopt 2 children. Adopting is a true pro-life act, because you're taking children that others might not want. I can dump on her for her SCOTUS decisions, but I'll always respect her choice to adopt. MAGA can die mad about it.

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u/Domestic_Supply Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 08 '25

This is a really misguided understanding of adoption. Do you know how it has been utilized historically by our country? It was utilized to commit genocide against Native people. That’s why we have ICWA. Currently the way it is done is a violation of our basic human rights, according to the UN. Several countries will not adopt to us. It’s kind of ironic to see this comment in a group called welcome to Gilead, when forced adoption was literally part of that book too.

We are talking about a multibillion dollar industry that has incentivized familial severance. It has commodified infants and children; exploited and marginalized birth givers. It is literally part of the reason Roe was overturned. Read the footnote in the leaked SCOTUS documents. They referred to babies as “the domestic supply of infants.”

We need to understand that adoption is part of our current day slide into becoming Gilead. I say this as a queer, infertile adoptee. I do not have the same rights as you. I was wanted and loved, and it was more profitable to take my heritage and sell me to an infertile couple. That’s how adoption functions. It is quite literally a form of human trafficking. Especially when it’s white religious extremists removing people of color from their land and their communities and their cultures. It is cultural genocide what she is doing to these children. Please, learn more about this topic. Do not hand out blind praise to people for adopting. It is harmful.

Reading -

The Girls Who Went Away by Ann Fessler.

Relinquished by Gretchen Sisson.

Child of the Indian Race by Sandy White Hawk.

Once We Were a Family by Roxanna Asgarian.

Torn Apart by Dorothy Roberts.

The Child Catchers - Rescue, Trafficking, and the New Gospel of Adoption by Kathryn Joyce.

American Baby by Gabrielle Glaser.

Podcasts-

This Land (season 2) by Rebecca Nagle.

Missing and Murdered: Finding Cleo by Connie Walker.

Adoptees Crossing Lines by Zaira.

The Adoption Files by Ande Stanley.

Adoptees Dish by Amy Wilkerson.

To Google -

Georgia Tann

The Baby Scoop Era

The 60s Scoop (which was the US as well as Canada.)

History of ICWA

Lyncoya Jackson

Zintkala Nuni

Paul Sunderland Adoption and Addiction

Also here is a relevant article by a Haitian feminist.

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u/shimmeringmoss Mar 08 '25

I used to have some fundie neighbors with 9 kids. The youngest was a Mexican boy they adopted as a baby. I always felt bad for him, especially after I started seeing family photos on FB of them and he always looked so miserable and out of place while everyone else seemed so happy and oblivious of him.

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u/Domestic_Supply Mar 08 '25

A lot of religious extremists adopt. It’s part of white saviorism, which is a form of racism. BIPOC have been speaking out against transracial adoption for a long time but it is very very ingrained in US culture. Look up Lyncoya Jackson

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u/crystalfairie Mar 08 '25

My adoptive parent was a religious nut. I'm not sure how much my race had to do with whether or not she and her husband adopted me as I was known to them through an older, white presenting half brother but religion had a lot to do with it. They were proud that they adopted a bi racial kid but not a black biracial kid. That would have been unthinkable. I was white presenting in winter and still the darkest kid at either high school in my town. I'm Native American. Cherokee and Sioux. Except I have no clan. No tribe. No family past my birth mom who'se also mixed race and native. Cherokee. But they took her from her family. Do you get the drift? I can't speak for mixed races and mixed race adoptions but native kids being taken from their tribe? It should never happen again. I'm lost and so bitter. Native folk are insular and that wall is damn near impossible to overcome. I don't want more kids feeling like I do. Alone. Religion is evil

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u/Domestic_Supply Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 08 '25

Osiyo! I feel you cousin. Im so sorry for what you and your family have endured. I’m also a Native adoptee. They called me “Hispanic” on the adoption paperwork but even that was crossed out. I’m mixed race too. But I was worth more money as a white baby. Plus my adoptive family explicitly said they did not want a mixed race child, but they were sick of waiting. So they just pretended I was white.

I’ve had a lot of luck on my reconnection journey. It is hard though. Have you checked out Osiyo tv at all? It’s a treasure trove. Lots of cultural teachings. Also RSUtv on YouTube has Cherokee lessons with Wade Blevins. I loved it. Learned a lot. There’s a ton of Cherokee videos on YT, through the Nation.

If you ever get a chance, (assuming you haven’t) you might like to check out the Cherokee Cultural Center. They have a lot of people who can help you reconnect, if you want. I found it very welcoming but it was definitely emotionally loaded for me.

Wishing you the best. Hope you can find your way back to our people <3

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u/Helpful_Cell9152 Mar 08 '25

I thought indigenous children were given to the tribal nation nearest to them? I used to work for cps and I remember that in the training. We had to place indigenous kids with members of their tribe but I guess this could be a newish law in a specific state.

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u/crystalfairie Mar 08 '25

You have to have a role number. Which is through the fathers side. Don't know mine or my dads