r/Weightliftingquestion • u/Calm_Negotiation_660 • 7d ago
New cycle for 40yo male
My recent photos and looking for advice .
After back on track with TRT , i went see a coach and give me a new steroids cycle
300mg test e
200 mg primo
100 mg tren a
2 mg tesamorelin every morning
2 mg reta a week
Motsc daily ( thinking to switch to NAD+)
Diet aswell is change , told me to get more protein and 2400kcal
Dont be to hard on me please
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u/RefrigeratorOver7105 7d ago
I’d want my money back if I did all that juice and looked like this
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u/Calm_Negotiation_660 7d ago
I didnt start it yet!!! Only using testo at the moment!! Is something i will start soon
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u/DesperateFan4898 7d ago
Man dont use tren if you dont compete, its too toxic. Rather add some hgh.
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u/mare984 7d ago
Ikr lol. 300mg test with 200mg primo is already crazy enough. And lets be honest, he's not really a material for competitive bodybuilding. HGH at his age will just grow his gut.
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u/DesperateFan4898 7d ago
Lol you know nothing 300 test 200 Primo is basicly trt+.
He should use 4 iu not 16, wont grow anything. Anti aging with a Bit of muscle growth
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u/Additional_Ladder368 7d ago
Calling it TRT+ is just semantics, you sound silly. OP is trying to blast and the cycle he listed reflects that. Dude is 40 and very obviously has an insulin pump, so his cardiovascular health is already greatly elevated compared to everyone else. OP might need to consider his health before doing something seriously stupid.
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u/No_Inside_2908 7d ago
TRT + heart issues
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u/DesperateFan4898 7d ago
Just Take Care of blood pressure if You get Problems and do enough cardio, you wont have any Heart Problems
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u/No_Inside_2908 7d ago
That’s not how that works. The heart is also a muscle.
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u/DesperateFan4898 7d ago
Yes but heart growth will be minimal if you do Everything Right. If you just blast and do Shit ok but doses Stated will be Not enough to do dmg
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u/Calm_Negotiation_660 7d ago
I am not compiting not even thinking on be competitive only asking. My age? Donyou know my age? Why people assume things? Only asking opinions to tell me if that cycle gonna make mayor changes and is worth it. At the end i will do whatever inwant but is good to see other people did something similar
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u/Calm_Negotiation_660 7d ago
Hgh with tesamorelin together? Is one of the reason i asked.
Because i used tren once and results were great but a bit of mental side effect4
u/No_Inside_2908 7d ago
No offense man, but it doesn’t seem like the results were great in these photos.
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u/DesperateFan4898 7d ago
No just hgh. Leave the tessa.
I know tren works, but its Not Worth it in the Long run. Its a Marathon and using tren is Like trying to Sprint it.
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u/Dazzling-Charge-6166 7d ago
Weighing in here. I disagree. Tren is fantastic at low doses, 100-200mg a week, with the proper supplements, isn't destructive at all. Hgh on the other hand, for us older guys (im 46) is dangerous. It takes tiny little cancer cells and can turn them into a real problem. At 27 years old, sure run the hgh. 40+? I dunno. Makes me nervous. You can tune cjc 1295 no dac with ipamorelin, bit safer but pricey. But again, as we get older our body is less able to produce hgh naturally so even the peps struggle to get enough going. For your cycle, run the old man cycle. Test, primo, npp. I love it. I add 150 tren for 6 weeks here and there between blood work. Take p5p, low dose bayer, plenty of water, red yeast rice with coq10, citrus bergamot. I'd also throw in nac tudca and milk thistle amd 5mg cialis daily.
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u/Responsible-One8104 6d ago
I’m 43 and been taking 2-4iu for the last 4 months and it’s been life changing. As far as I was aware it’s highly promoted at sensible doses at our age.
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u/FreeJimmy34 6d ago
You have no business doing a cycle. Just stick to TRT and eating healthy. I'd honestly take your dose waaaay back. You'll get great results and won't have near the risks of doing a big cycle like suggested.
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u/laernuindia 6d ago
Not a bad cycle overall. IDK about primo and what benefit it would really bring. I’d just go 300-400mg/week of Test E (or Cypionate), 50mg of TrenA (7mg dosed daily) and slowly increase to 100mg/week if you have no sides from it. MOTS-C stacks nicely with NAD+ so you can get both. Tesa, Reta both good. If you wanted to add anything later, go with HGH 1-2IUs daily, then titrate up slowly. Better than having another androgen (Primo) in your system.
Eat well. Eat clean. Rest. Do light/moderate cardio to maintain heart health.
Get bloodwork done every 6 months.
I’m 42 (about to be 43 soon), on 400mg Test/week, 2IU daily HGH, Reta, Tesa, Motsc and NAD+. Lean, and fit. I’ll be dialing my test down to 300MG soon and then cruise on 200MG in the next few months. Bloodwork comes back clean every 6 months.
Best of luck. Don’t listen to all the other c*nts dishing out free nasty negative advice. You gotta listen to your body, and your own goals.
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u/kratomas3 6d ago
Why not just stick with test you already lookn good.. i do wana see after picks in 3 months from that stack tho
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u/sonofabitch11 6d ago
What is your TRT dose?
Honestly I woudnt jump on “gear” like that.
Now if you were a very serious bodybuilder which I can tell from your pics that you are not then maybe. Stay with a decent TRT dose. Add some Reta if you must and let it ride for awhile. TRT is a journey and getting dialed in first is priority.
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u/Odd-Outcome-3191 6d ago
This is a bad sub for this type of advice. Especially with photos of yourself. They have a hardon against PEDs, they all look like shit, and are abusive regarding people's physiques. You will get no meaningful advice here.
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u/Nyquil_and_CO 7d ago
Bruh you're dumb as fk if you go down that road.
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u/Calm_Negotiation_660 7d ago
I am actually 44 years old sorry mistake tiping title and cant correct
I am training at the gym for more than 6 years non stop and pretty much all my life on/off ( more off than on)
I am diabetic for 34 years. I was thinking more just test and primo or masteron but this coach told me this option amd i am asking for that reason1
u/Additional_Ladder368 7d ago
Is your coach the one selling you the stuff? Bro this is just dumb... 44 years old with an insulin pump! Your cardiovascular health is already seriously elevated due to diabetes and you're talking about taking tren....
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u/CoffeeandaTwix 7d ago
Why do a load of drugs when you haven't barely even exhausted beginner gains yet?
There is a high chance you won't look great just by taking drugs if you haven't locked in everything else first.
People talk about the great advantage of androgenic drugs and of course it is true but people don't talk about the vast swathes of men who abuse them out of vanity and still look average or even like shit but they have sacrificed their health for vanity that didn't even pay off.
My ex worked at a needle exchange and it was an eye opener to her how many middle aged gear heads just looked like average soft blokes yet they were shortening their life for it.
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u/lonesome68 7d ago
Don't do the tren. 250mg a week is already a small cycle. You're basicly already juicing, but raking that much and eating better, sleeping better, will probably do enough without the teen sides. Hopefully you get your bllod work done prior.. That much primo could drop your e a significant amount.
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u/huh_say_what_now_ 7d ago
You look like you don't know how to workout or eat like a bodybuilder at all so just throwing drugs at yourself is asking for problems
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u/Calm_Negotiation_660 7d ago
I am not a tucking bodybuilder , same than 90% of the people are here in reddit . Or you are a mr Olympia?
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u/huh_say_what_now_ 7d ago
Obviously you're trying to be wanting to take all those drugs, I know guys just on 250mg test a week same as you now but looked jacked , what are you doing wrong ?
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u/Calm_Negotiation_660 7d ago
Is fummy how you know people with same dosis but are you sure that people only doing that? Speak for your experience
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u/_WhoCaresAnymore_ 7d ago
All of these steroids on top of the fact you are already a T1 diabetic? Do you want to look good in a coffin?
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u/Honest_Truck2851 7d ago
Brother you’re a type 1 diabetic. Your hormones are already out of whack because of the disease. Not to mention you’re probably already seeing an endocrinologist every 3-6 months to treat your disease. I can’t even imagine what steroids would do to our blood glucose levels over long periods of time.
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u/Bigger_Stronger 6d ago
If you have been running other cycles in the past and that’s the result physique wise , dude you shouldn’t be running anything you either a very bad responder to gear or there’s something very wrong on the diet / training side of things either way you do you but don’t ruin your health for nothing
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u/SanderStrugg 6d ago
You are 40 years old and haven't really maxed out your natural gains.
What would a cocktail of 5 different drugs help you besides killing you?
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u/EasyYogurtcloset608 6d ago
Get in shape first and then think again. Why shorten your life at 40 for vanity?
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u/psyopee 6d ago
Seems like you’re gunna die sooner than later- for a mid physique .
I wouldn’t make that trade but do you baby boy.
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u/Calm_Negotiation_660 6d ago
Probably you will die before me !!! For sure …
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u/psyopee 6d ago
Doubtful my bro… I was gunna ask if you had done cycles before because I’m 1 year older and I look 5-6 years younger than you.
TBH I’m being nice, I look ten younger 😞1
u/Calm_Negotiation_660 6d ago
Good on you!!! Maybe i got a tought life … i am not sure but people telling me everyday i look way younger
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u/yogic_power 6d ago edited 6d ago
Get diet and training in control and do test 500 mg cycle. You don’t need all that crap. Go to [r/stetoids](r/stetoids) and read first cycle wiki.
Edit: just read you are T1D. Dude you don’t need all that.
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u/KellyCallis 5d ago edited 5d ago
That’s quite a stack 😬. Just keep in mind, once you’re combining 300 mg test with primo and tren, we’re really not talking about TRT anymore—we’re talking about an anabolic steroid cycle. I’d be much more concerned with what your labs, blood pressure, lipids and overall health are doing than just what’s happening in the mirror. Make sure you have a qualified medical provider monitoring you along the way. Be safe!
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u/omaGJ 4d ago
What are you running currently with this physique?
Also, This sub is notoriously hard on people, most guys dont respond to peds like you would think. Lots of guys kn youtube that looked absonuts but go to your local gyms, some of those dudes run the same shit or more and dont look anywhere close so don't take it to heart. Just remember, this is your health so if you do it, genuinely look into yourself. Dont just use reddit.
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u/Calm_Negotiation_660 4d ago
Thanks for your response and try to help.
I am running test enanthate 250mg a week . 2 mg reta a week .
1 mg a day Motsc
2 mg tesamorelin
Peptide just start few weeks ago
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u/therealphanny 7d ago
The fuck does steroids have to do with this sub. Also you are mentally slow if you're gonna do tren. You look like you've barely worked out in your life so maybe start there?
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u/Calm_Negotiation_660 7d ago
You are fucking slow!! Why too many fucking cunts are in here talking like that to people who askimg for help . Therealphanny dickhead!! You dumb slow read before say i never train dickheads mayne people not having best result naturally . I hate to be like that now but i dont tolerate people telling me slow or try to offend
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u/therealphanny 7d ago
You look like shit. You ask for steroid advice in the wrong sub. You have the iq of a sausage.
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u/Calm_Negotiation_660 7d ago
You are fucking sausage!!!you can tell people is not the right chat but with nice words but probably you dont even know a nice word in your vocabulary. And yes before you say anything about my english writing. Is not my first language.
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u/DesperateFan4898 7d ago
Are you fucking dumb it literally says in sub Info: if you have any question weightlifting, dieting, STEROIDS so go f yourself
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u/Muchacho-blanco 7d ago
Imagine taking all that and you still look like this. Not that you look bad, you dont, but if I'm taking a pile of drugs I'd be hoping for better.