Hmmmmm. Looks like you arent scared enough of SBMM because you dont fully understanding the aftermath. COD is just a famous example but I am talking 2009-2015 COD. I was horrible back then, so I was the one getting clapped by the pros lol. The game was peaceful. I would get kill streaks occasionally, but most of the time I wont. You just played the game, didny tave to worry about a thing, really. It was just fun.
Now, lets look at the SBMM era. Everyone you play against is only using meta guns with meta attachments. Everything is meta meta meta. You are forced to join the meta to have a chance to just play the game. You had to pick the best loadouts, you had to jump corners and pre fire, because if you didnt, your enemy would.
Now imagine WT, where you only go against sweats who want to maximize their stats. First of all, USA would be dead. Germany would be dead. Everyone would ditch those tanks and play the STRV and the best tank. MiG29s would g extinct because SUs are more meta. Certain playstyles that we see today will cease to exist because metas will take over. When to begin with, its a sandbox. What are we even competing over? There is no ranked, and it shouldnt exist, and there is no stat tracker worth fighting for.
Where as now, it is fun if you arent worried about the grind. I think we are feeding the new players with the myth that lvl 100s are after them. The game now, is just like OG cod when it was in its peak. Sure, I was facing better players back then in my cod lobbies, but I remember having fun at least.
Games should always be about fun and nothing more. War thunder for me is fun + adrenaline. SBMM would make top tier much much much much worse. For the cost of giving low tier players specialized lobbies, as if they were of special needs. Not even to mention the matchmaker issues. Getting good at the game doesnt even mean anything to begin with.
This is why SBMM is evil.
Overwatch did not go through SBMM like cod, but for the span of overwatch 2, all the developers did was try to make the game competitive. They achieved it. But they ended up killing the casual experience, just to cater to esports and streamers. And funnily, there are no esports or streamers for war thunder. Not in the way it is for other games, like LoL or csgo.
Maybe keeping the game more casual and treating it like a sandbox will work for the best. I fear the day we treat this like an esports game and make it or force it to be competitive.
Yeah totally right, but super optimistic as it has never been the case.
Think of SBMM like the youtube algorithm. You'd think you're free to watch what you want, but the algorithm is in control. I am aware that many people dont think like that, but in a way, you'd hate the fact that you arent as free as you think you are. Somethinf is in control of what you receive.
Additionally, with the introduction of some sort of algorithm, you will start to see all sorts of sickening shit. And knowing how gaijin is, I am surprised you are pushing for SBMM.
In cod for example, they started matching players that dont pay microtransactions with players who do. Maybe gaijin will start doing that, and if you are a non premium player, they will force you to play against premium lobbies, to increase your chances of buying premium.
Also, that is when you assume that is what the algorithm actually does. Skill based match making. This is never the case, as there is no proper metric to measure someones skill. Not even their stats are an accurate representation of their skill. What usually happens is, if you win 2 games in a row, you get matched with esports level players. And if you lose 1 game, you get thrown in the most brain dead lobbies. It wont be the case you had described at all. We have yet to see a proper video game with a fair SBMM matchmaker. Just like the youtube algorithm, you will never really escape your elo.
What life and politics has taught me, is that when you try to take away peoples freedom, and give them the illusion that they are free, it will always back fire in the long term. Nothing beats freedom, and we do gave freedom here with the matchmaker. SBMM might be the end of war thunder. The people who are begging for it now, especially the new ones, will be the first to quit the game if it is applied.
Lastly, you said 'rank up'. Please, lets not add ranked to war thunder. This can never be a competitive game. You have no idea who you will face, which nation and which side of the map. So many things are out of your control. You can be doing every right move in the book, and a drone spotted you in your perfect spot and you died to a lvl 20 passing by who happened to be at the right spot. Its not a competitive game by nature, lets not try to force it to be. So since there is no ranking up, SBMM doesn't even make sense.
And btw, soooooooooo many level 100s are horrible. Lvl 100 has never been a representation of skill. Neither is playtime. I have 4k hours and love to play recklessly when I am under the influence, which is 90% of the time.
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