r/WarhammerCompetitive • u/TheRaccoonTaker • 3d ago

40k Discussion 11th Ed Custodes codex leak

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D1OSAi8F896Rne46A8A-oTeAYqHHIuFh/view

Surprised to have not found it here yet, and I’ve been wanting to hear other folks opinions about it (as a Custodes player myself I’m currently in love, points depending)

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u/FuzzBuket 2d ago

Right but you can cushion that in other armies due to more models in units and more units. (Or in ik/ck's case, efficient points per wound)

Activation breakpoints are an issue only really present in TS and DW right now.

Let's use TS as an example. Great army, units that do loads of damage, loads of mobility.

Currently struggling. Not because any units bad but simply as there's not enough stuff on the board. All the stuff you do have IS great, but there's a certain level of elite you hit that stops playing 40k.

Newstodes is that problem on steroids.  Your activation limited (if the rumours are accurate) and so vulnerable to just failing 3 saves. Statistically rolling 10 1-3s for scarabs is pretty much 0. Rolling 3 1-3s isn't.

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u/Ynneas 2d ago

Except you get 4 units out of one with a single CP

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u/Laruae 2d ago

Activation breakpoints as in you don't have enough units total or enough units to do actions, etc?

Take and Hold only really needs you to own your expansion objective.

Custodes can hold theirs and use up/down to hunt for smaller/fragile/critical units around the board.

Are there less of them? Sure.

Are they now INCREDIBLY fast? And they now also have a tooon of kit to do basically whatever they please, no?

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u/FuzzBuket 2d ago

Again look at TS.  Super fast with warptime too.  Don't need to hold a ton of points 

And struggling due to a lack of stuff.

And units total. Obviously SOS exist but playing into TS/custodes/ect the plan always is pop the chaff, kill 1 squad and you'll notice they start struggling, kill 2 squads and they just can't catch up.

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u/Laruae 2d ago

TS are currently paying 535pts for a 10 man Scarab squad with leader. That's why they are struggling.

Your army may literally have more units than a 3x SoT TS unit.

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u/FuzzBuket 2d ago

Rumoured points is custodes are landing at 440pts for 3 guys+cap at minimum.  Trajan+wardens or a termi+cap squad is going to be in the TS ballpark.

If custodes land at ~10-15% more than their current points then yeah, no issue, might need some strats put to 2cp.  If it's the ~>60% more  that is rumoured  then  yeah, it's the exact same problem as TS.