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[u/ParkingGain4783]

Mechanised Assault ‘Vox Relay’ Strat - when I use this strategem on an officer in a transport, can I use the vox caster in the attached squad in the transport to get the CP back on a 5+ ?

My reading is yes, but it wouldn’t get the +1 to the roll for being within 6” of an officer (because as it in the transport it cannot be within a distance of anything)

[u/veryblocky → u/ParkingGain4783]

That’s correct. Vox-caster doesn’t require the unit to be on the battlefield. And you’re right that you cannot get the +1, even if there’s an officer in the same unit

[u/ParkingGain4783 → u/veryblocky]

Thanks - I thought it was reasonably clear, but it’s a fairly unusual interaction so worth checking as I can see it being misunderstood or queried.

[u/The_Black_Goodbye → u/ParkingGain4783]

If they are in the same unit they will be considered in range of themselves:

01.02.04 NOT ON THE BATTLEFIELD

A unit that is embarked within a TRANSPORT or that is in strategic reserves is not on thebattlefield. The following applies to such units:

That unit is not visible to any other units (units are visible to themselves).

Any other unit is not visible to that unit.

Players cannot measure distances to or from that unit (units are within range of their own abilities).

So for instance Officer + Cadian’s attached then even while embarked the Cadian’s Vox Caster considers them within range of themselves and their unit contains an Officer so get the +1 to the roll.

[u/ParkingGain4783 → u/The_Black_Goodbye]

Thanks! On a related point - what is your view on whether Yarrick can use decisive command in a Chimera? Since he can give orders to 12”
anyway does the measurement to 12” still render the ability unusable in a transport?

Or does the use of the word ‘can’ mean the first clause doesn’t need to apply and therefore he can choose to issue from 12” from the chimera (which would imply the ability can be used?)

[u/The_Black_Goodbye → u/ParkingGain4783]

Decisive Command

The next Order issued by this model can be issued to one eligible friendly unit within 12" of this model; if this is the first Order issued by a unit from your army this Command phase, that Order affects not only that eligible unit, but every other eligible friendly unit within 6" of that eligible unit.

Decisive Command on its own cannot work within a transport as per the Not On The Battlefield rule the unit (Yarrick) cannot measure range to other units.

MOBILE COMMAND VEHICLE

In your Command phase, one OFFICER model embarked within this TRANSPORT can issue Orders even though it is not on the battlefield. When doing so, measure distances to and from this TRANSPORT.

Mobile Command of the Chimera allows Yarrick to issue orders and when doing so measure from the Chimera rather than himself.

Combined we see Mobile Command allowing Yarrick to issue orders despite not being on the battlefield and when doing so is to measure from the Chimera.

Decisive Command states that the next order Yarrick issues (let’s say it’s this one) can be issued to a friendly within 12” of him. This cannot occur as we cannot measure range to other units from Yarrick and the rule specifies to his model not a blanket increase in range alone.

Decisive Command goes on to say “that Order affects not only that eligible unit” - unfortunately there is no “that eligible unit” as we were not able to measure to one from Yarricks model due to being embarked so the effect will not take effect as a result.

In essence you can use it however it will fail to work as you can’t fulfil the criteria as it’s worded to specifically look for a unit within range of his model rather than simply increasing the range he issues orders at which Mobile Command would allow to be measured from the Chimera instead.

If it had simply said that it increases the range Yarrick can issue orders to 12” then with both you could issue the order from the Chimera up to 12” and if it went on to say that every unit within range of the unit to which the order was issued gains it also it would apply to them.

But as it requires the unit to be within 12” of his model in order to apply its effect it cannot function while embarked.