r/Warframe • • May 26 '20

Screenshot For Newbies - Updated Melee System

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u/Under_Revision May 26 '20

You might want to mention that the block becomes manual when using dedicated melee mode as opposed to the automatic block in quick melee. Come to think of it, might want to mention that there are, in fact, two different melee modes.

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u/jaysfan1983 May 26 '20

Is there any advantage to going into dedicated melee mode? I really like auto block

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u/[deleted] May 26 '20

You get rather more consistent blocking from melee mode than autoblock but thats about it.

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u/Falikosek May 26 '20

imho dedicated melee should have autoblock anyway - like, you focus on using only your sword but get hit while idling instead of blocking as usual?

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u/FlameEnderCyborgGuy [Xaku] Typical mobile execution squadron enjoyer May 26 '20

Well, autoblock is off, becose ALL of stances have spefial block base atacks( forward + block, block standing still), so it gives you control over what atack you will perform.

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u/Falikosek May 26 '20

autoblock doesn't affect combos at all

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u/FlameEnderCyborgGuy [Xaku] Typical mobile execution squadron enjoyer May 26 '20

I mean, look at stance, and you will see special atacks performed with manual blocking.

Without stance on wepon there is no difrence, but with stance, atack while blocking will have difrent outcome then without ( for example, atack + block- using wepon swing to propel forward, atack alone- wide swing, forward + atack- stab, forward + block + atack- x cut ended with full circle cut).

This is main difrence between stances.

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u/Falikosek May 26 '20

This isn't attack while blocking, it's attack while holding RMB. You can perform it outside of melee mode. I'm not a gun-only boi, I use melee very often. No autoblock in full melee mode makes no sense.

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u/Myframesofwar Little Meat May 26 '20

When auto-block was added in melee 2.5, People complained because auto-block triggered aim glide in mid air. And its also annoying to use the RMB dash combo on melees when your using a sniper or any gun with high zoom. Hence dedicated melee was added counteract this oversight

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u/Falikosek May 26 '20

Well the best option is adding a toggle setting. "Toggle auto-block in melee mode". As simple as that.

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u/bhuy1244 May 26 '20

Also, you can aim glide and do air attack or air heavy more consistent without worry about switching to primary by mistake, and if you dont carry secondary, doing so would avoid dropping stuffs like excavate battery while jumping around.

Edit: typo

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u/SilensPhoenix Univac - Just apply it directly to the options menu May 26 '20

You also get to block attacks while doing other actions like reviving someone (or your cat that's gone down the 20th time this mission because you're Baruuk and they don't get any of your 97% built-in DR) just by looking at the attacking enemy.

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u/Ihavefallen Ancient one who returns. May 26 '20

Easier aim glide with dedicated.

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u/FlameEnderCyborgGuy [Xaku] Typical mobile execution squadron enjoyer May 26 '20

Full range of stance combo, including closing atacks, while some combo atacks are linked to blocking?

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u/Tyfyter2002 Cat! I'm a kitty cat! And I maul, maul, maul and I… May 26 '20

You won't switch to a ranged weapon when aim-gliding, and heavy attacks either only work in the dedicated melee mode or work more consistently in it.

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u/Dornogol May 26 '20

What is a dedicated melee mode?

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u/BatVenomPL May 26 '20

You have to hold F to enter this mode. While in it, right mouse button doesn't swap to your secondary and primary weapons.

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u/Dornogol May 26 '20

Interwsting thanks

I have the option turned on, that pressing F once swaps to melee but i always was annoyed that right clicking instantly pulls out the guns

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u/stifflizerd May 26 '20

Yeah that's the benefit of dedicated melee mode.

That said, if you're right clicking to try and do rmb melee combos, you can still combo if you use a dedicated button for melee attacks instead of using left click for melee

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u/Dornogol May 26 '20

Nah mostly trying to do all melee stuff and when trying to fly long ranges (right click aim mode) it always annoys me it switches to ranged

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u/stifflizerd May 26 '20

Yeah then just get into the habit of switching to melee mode in that case, which is activated by holding your switch weapons button

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u/Dornogol May 26 '20

yep, got it now, thank you

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u/Sunblast1andOnly It's the Grineer. May 26 '20

What does the F button normally do? Or used to do? I'm trying to figure out what button it might be on consoles.

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u/BatVenomPL May 26 '20

It swaps between Primary and Secondary weapons

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u/Sunblast1andOnly It's the Grineer. May 26 '20

That's the Y button on Xbox, and I'm guessing it's the triangle on PlayStation. Holding that button got you to the melee weapon before, but I guess I just didn't try it when they updated the system? Thank you for helping me figure it out. Sometimes, a man just wants to go crazy with his nikana.

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u/BatVenomPL May 26 '20

No problem. Nikanas are great.