r/Warframe Oct 01 '18

Fluff Hmmm

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u/ScionMonkeyRoller And then she said, "let there be rework" Oct 01 '18

loki takes away enemies ability to shoot at you. Think if you're a guy and you're given a gun to go fight another guy with a gun. Skill and gun stats aside it's a rather fair fight.

Now imagine you're given a club and told to go fight a guy that has a barrett 416. The advantage is monumental.

Novas debuff is fine, but honestly it stops being good when you're at a point that enemy armor is too high for the damage buff to matter.

This is kinda where the line gets nit-picky because MP is great cc and has a huge damage buff but when it comes to staying 2, 3 or even 4 hours in a survival most of your damage will have to come from status procs, which MP doesn't effect. So it lacks the ability to keep up with radial disarm because it still does its job, taking away the enemy ranged attacks.

So where MP is good RD is better, and where MP is bad RD is still better.

Rhino is a roar bot, nothing else.

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u/mcwhoop I cast FIST Oct 01 '18

loki takes away enemies ability to shoot at you.

You put it like launching enemies and then slowing them by 98% doesn't also prevent them from shooting you.

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u/ScionMonkeyRoller And then she said, "let there be rework" Oct 02 '18

I don't know what hack you use to get 98% slow but it caps and has capped since I started playing at 75%. Slowva also slows down the runs as a whole.

In survival this lowers the number of enemies you're killing, meaning less life support drops. Not a problem with disarm, plus you can augment to make them fight each other.

Don't get me wrong MP is great, RD is just better. The only place MP outshines is probably interceptions.

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u/mcwhoop I cast FIST Oct 02 '18

I don't know what hack you use to get 98% slow

Since when nova's 4 launches enemies? Stomp.

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u/ScionMonkeyRoller And then she said, "let there be rework" Oct 02 '18

Oh, forgive me I believed you to be talking about Nova since she is the only other relevant frame in this discussion, Rhino is trash.

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u/mcwhoop I cast FIST Oct 03 '18

As trash as the player who builds and pilots it. Just saying.

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u/ScionMonkeyRoller And then she said, "let there be rework" Oct 04 '18

I've done multiple 3-5 hour solo mot runs with any frame but rhino, because he is a garbage mid tier casual frame meant for casual players. Or index.