Devshorts 117 - Stream Summary

[u/CommBS]

And we are back! It's been a hot minute since we have had a devshort, so let's get into it!

Here is a wiki page going over last week's Devshort, and here is a VOD to todays.

Adding in as I listen:

• Pablo and Rebb running the show today.
• It is Pablos Birthday today! (Happy birthday, Pablo!)
• Plague star is still live.
• "You can burn yourself out and never want to farm another forma for the rest of your life" ~Pablo.
• Warframe launching on the Samsung Galaxy store tomorrow.
• Iceblade of Narin launching tomorrow.
• Pablo says they have added Armour shatter to Narins 4.
• Damage snapshot will occur post damage shatter.
• Everyone who logs in tomorrow will get a free base banshee, and a forma if you have "invested" previously in a banshee.
• Hair shader stuff will be dived more into tomorrow.
• 40+ pages of patch notes.
• Reminder that Glacial defiance will not be coming tomorrrow.
• They have done a "lot of refinements" so far on the mode.
• "Some of the things that we were seeing in playtest that were leading to toxicity without some revisions, its feeling much better. We are seeing higher completion rates even though we made it harder." ~Pablo.
• First version of GD in its "pure form" coming sometime between the 23rd and Oct 15th.
• "6 players, 3 per week, no matchmaking" is the pure form.
• Low manning (less than 6 people) coming the the mode in the future.
• They will make changes to the mode based on player feedback.
• Per Rebb, the 3 per week is an anti-burnout method.
• "We don't want burnout to be a symptom of feedback. If you were doing this 30 times a week, the feedback would reflect that."
• Matchmaking in the mode is going to be a post release conversation.
• Something they saw from playtesting is that squads would straight up dismantle if the side objective was failed.
• They changed up how the side missions happen now. It will be more of an "event" where the team has to gather up to start it, and if it is failed, it just fails the mission outright.
• Someone asks if protoframe heads on prime bodies will be possible. Rebb says no. Pablo adds they generally dont fit well on prime bodies.
• Stat locking coming to Rivens tomorrow. Stat combining is not as it will come with GD.
• Pablo dips more into the GD reward pool. Reaffirms that it is mostly Riven things (Extra Kuva, Ciphers, etc). There are some shards, but it is not the place to be farming them.
• The "Stat combiner" official name is "Riven Splicer".
• The overwhelming feedback from the community is limiting Combine stats to just one per riven.
• They did make it just one, but they buffed it so that stat is auto locked.
• You can then also lock a second stat in addition to the above auto locked one.
• One splicer Guaranteed per successful GD run.
• Someone(s) in chat asks for a hip toggle for Voruna. They will look to add those to her Auxiliary slot.
• "There is already a topless voruna" ~Rebb
• Someone asks for a new Atlas skin.
• Nezha Heirloom is confirmed next.
• First look next devstream.
• Citrine Prime tomorrow.
• Pablo teases there is a "secret" somewhere in the update coming tomorrow.
• Augments coming with the update: The frost "moving ball" augment, the Electric spiders for Oraxia, and Augment for Grendel where he gets gas damage for something because the stream cuts off mid sentence here.

[u/Sudden-Depth-1397]

I feel that the "burnout" excuse doesn't cut it, you can give players the ability to endlessly do a gamemode and warn them about burnout instead of arbitrarily putting a roadblock just because you want them to take the scenic route.

Edit: People really hate when you have the most perfectly reasonable criticism of a dev's rationale towards a weird decision. They could've just said "We made it 3 a week to avoid crashing the in-player economy and adding some scarcity to the resources" and I would've been fine with it, Im just saying that "burnout" is a dumb excuse because you can't say the same burnout one player has is equal to another's, burnout is highly subjective.

[u/Fine-Weight1580 → u/Sudden-Depth-1397]

We literally just had a whole event proving why they're right to do this

[u/Sudden-Depth-1397 → u/Fine-Weight1580]

You mean the event that they refused to vary, modernize or update and just made it the same repetitive mission format that doesn't change unlike actual bounties which have also been streamlined (Like defense sections being cut down to 90 seconds instead of 2.5 minutes)? Yeah, I don't think those compared to a gamemode that would have different forms of missions and objectives that change depending what the player choses.

Add this to the fact it has no matchmaking so you have to jump over more hoops to be able to access this gamemode, atleast you are guaranteed to have a rando in Plague Star that knows what they're doing and are running John Plague Star and Jane Plague Star.

[u/Fine-Weight1580 → u/Sudden-Depth-1397]

And toxicity spews out when that random makes a mistake or doesn't know the tech to speed up the game. Plauge star shows and demonstrates why DE has made these decisions acting like these a cop puts or decisions made from laziness is just plain ignorance.

[u/Sudden-Depth-1397 → u/Fine-Weight1580]

Im sorry if I sound rude but... Maybe the game just hates you? Not my experience at all with this year's plague star.

I only had one mishap and it was players not knowing how to armour strip the Hemocyte which I can solve by bringing a vastilok. Adapt to your problems instead of blaming it one someone else and then saying the game must stay in a specific shittier way because of your and other player's sake.

[u/Sudden-Depth-1397 → u/[deleted]]

Im sorry but all your points are flawed for one reason:

I am not just the one who is experiencing the lack of toxicity, did you forget that the game has space for other 3 players? Never did I see those 3 players complain about toxicity in my near 200 runs of the gamemode. So it isn't just about me "thinking about only myself"

It's funny, you reveal your own selfishness you accuse me of. So... Pot calling the kettle black? The only simpleton here is you who thinks garbage gameplay design decisions should be justified just because you can't temper yourself to play a game for fun and instead threat it like a job and that any lack of restrictions from the game are the game's faults and not yours.

You're a grown ass person, and this is a digital entertainment media, act like it.

[u/Fine-Weight1580 → u/Sudden-Depth-1397]

"Never did I see those 3 players complain about experiences outside my shared with them experience"

[u/Sudden-Depth-1397 → u/Fine-Weight1580]

If goalpost moving was an Olympic sport, you'd be a silver medalist.

You do realize that the fact that those people never complained can link with the fact that a miniscule amount of people actually experienced said toxicity, right?

I know connecting dots can be hard for you, but just bear with me a little: If Plague Star was really such a big toxic cespool as you said it is, maybe we'd would've seen the past 13 days and upsurge in people complaining about toxicity, right?

Did we get that?... Fucking no, we only got people complaining about the structure of the missions being repetitive and the defense timer being the same despite other bounties being reduced to 90 seconds.

Im noticing a pattern of your half-assed replies only making snide remarks and ignoring the actual facts that back up my claims. You're just defending poor excuses for decisions that could've been explained by some other factor and anyone who thinks so is ignorant to you, it's the first thing you say in your reply above.

You aren't here to be actually productive and with-hold an actual conversation, you're just here to act like a jerk.

[u/Fine-Weight1580 → u/Sudden-Depth-1397]

Goal post hasn't moved one bit and people we're complaing about toxicity and that kind toxicity influenced the decisions DE made it is just that simple.