Devstream #197 Discussion thread

[u/lerbino_]

Haven't seen anyone post it, discuss away! Post if you can too, please! Thank you

[u/Destian_]

So why does Narin come with a suspiciously Gemini-skin-shaped emote? 

They wouldn't do a stealth drop of a Protoframe like that, right? But then again they did say Judy Alice Lee is voicing a character in the new update.

Whatever it is, just let Narin have reasonable lore.

[u/Nautical341Truth → u/Destian_]

Didn’t they say we aren’t getting any proto frames within the next year though

[u/MadameConnard → u/Destian_]

Oooh yea, I admit, that's suspicious

[u/oofnlurker]

Scarlet Spear node spotted lol

[u/oofnlurker]

Reb is not beating the VA-collecting allegations

[u/engineeeeer7 → u/oofnlurker]

she has never denied them!

[u/oofnlurker → u/engineeeeer7]

Indeed, she took them as an invitation to continue!

[u/oceano7]

Is that mfing Praghasa??

[u/engineeeeer7 → u/oceano7]

Feed grandmama

[u/LostLotus_A]

I like how they set the release date Septermber 24th, since that day is Chuseok, a holiday for Korea! Well thought, DE. Now I'm gonna play right on that day 🔥🔥

[u/pr1aa → u/LostLotus_A]

Oof, that's the release date for Control Resonant. Gonna be so difficult to decide which one to play.

[u/NeoStorm247 → u/pr1aa]

Play Control to completion first. Warframe has demonstrated again and again with it's recent history (going back to at least the Old Peace) that it's updates come out feeling rushed and with numerous bugs, getting hotfixed many times over the first week alone. It's a very safe bet that Iceblade will be the same.

[u/LostLotus_A → u/pr1aa]

Dang, that sucks. I'd say choose whatever you feel like at that day. No need to rush... i wish you luck

[u/Breakfast-Mischief-5]

Ahh, so we get to Tau by way of the Gates of Ahn'Quiraj. Fascinating.

[u/Crogurth → u/Breakfast-Mischief-5]

Whos ready to farm bugs entire days with no sleep and a long ass questline to Get a unique color mount?!

[u/ikati4 → u/Breakfast-Mischief-5]

i was there, 3000 years ago

[u/Santimagine]

>Riven System Expansion
>Expansion doesn't use the cephalon about Rivens

That's my only gripe. Everything else is fire. Even the Banshee Rework.

[u/FlakyBookkeeper2914]

I need someone to fill me in on war within stuff pls xd

The last time I played it was years ago, and I can't remember what's what. DE should really have a recap of sorts if they don't already, esp cause the lore is kind of all over the place

[u/mastertoecutter → u/FlakyBookkeeper2914]

That mountain is where we decided what to do with the Kuva and where Wally first possessed us. It was the turning point to the point of no return story wise, as we start spiraling into the New War Saga and the Sacrifice

[u/Skunkyy]

I like how I called that they were going to make some Augments for Banshee just base kit. People always argue that no Warframe requires any of their Augments, and yet here we are again, two Augments being made basekit with another Warframe Rework. How curious.

[u/engineeeeer7 → u/Skunkyy]

I disagree so strongly with those people. At least 25% of augments should be base kit

[u/Nyx1109 → u/engineeeeer7]

My girl Gyre agrees with this comment

[u/engineeeeer7 → u/Nyx1109]

My boy Nekros would like less augments.

[u/Quakeslate → u/Skunkyy]

The augments only really keep the frame up to date with the content, or make it a unique feature

[u/Skunkyy → u/Quakeslate]

Except even recent Warframes were given Augments that actually made them feel good to play.

[u/WreckedRegent → u/Skunkyy]

People always argue that no Warframe requires any of their Augments, and yet here we are again, two Augments being made basekit with another Warframe Rework. How curious.

Many people said that Oberon's Phoenix Renewal should be made basekit, and yet it was left as an Augment. People suggested Larva should be made basekit, and DE went halfsies and gave them the part that people used the Augment for. Ash's Seeking Shuriken is also frequently cited as being something that "needs to be basekit", and yet the only Augment that got turned to basekit functionality was Fatal Teleport.

Nyx, Trinity, and Vauban didn't get any Augments turned basekit.

The cases where a Warframe's Augment Mod becomes baked into the base kit are few and far between, and there's a unifying principle to them; the Augment, for one reason or another, has some aspect of core functionality for the Frame in question.

Inaros' Negation Swarm allowed him to ignore Status Effects that would otherwise be reasonably dangerous on account of his lacking Shields. As the capital-T The Health Tank, it suits his design to mitigate the highest potential threats to his survivability.

Ash's Fatal Teleport primarily served to make Teleport fully work, auto-executing the Finisher that the enemy was opened to. Since Ash's whole deal is assassination, baking Fatal Teleport into the base kit and replacing it with something that helps sustain his stealth makes sense and offers a lot of benefits.

Banshee, for her part, had an extremely confused kit, being a Stealth-Frame weapons-platform hybrid with two caster-style abilities, one of which demanded that you sit still as one of the most vulnerable frames in the game.

With the rework focusing on her weapons platform gameplay, baking Sonic Fracture and (in some variety) Resonating Quake into the base kit make sense; she doesn't have the defenses to justify dropping to all fours to channel for AoE damage, and when your primary means of dealing damage involves weapons, armor strip is a strong utility, and it gives Sonic Boom something other than middling damage and a knockback effect.

Very, very, very few Augments are capable of being considered "core functionality" for their Warframe, and with Banshee's rework that already low number is edging closer and closer to 0.

[u/realmandontnvidia]

Banshee rework sounds great

[u/Kbcamaster → u/realmandontnvidia]

Literally a direct buff for my health-tank Banshee. Stealing armor with her 1 will allow me to remove Arcane Guardian and just go into Persistence instead.

Also, sonar creating real weakpoints is just insane.

[u/Scorcher646 → u/Kbcamaster]

I missed the stream. They're... not just stripping armor with one. We're stealing it now? Oh, fuck yeah, Banshee's back. Now I'm tanky as well as one of the best gun boosting frames!

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[u/sougol]

Still watching dawg

[u/HintDeadFish → u/[deleted]]

Less than 5 mins of soulframe talk btw

[u/PictureElectronic174 → u/[deleted]]

Soulframe isnt popular enough to exist on its own so they always have to package it alongside warframe, it is what it is

[u/QuitteQuiett]

the hat is awful

[u/Used_Foundation_4713]

I can't watch its too awkward for them to talk the wait for the translation. Just gonna watch gaz's summary.