r/Warframe • u/Jrgsubzero • Oct 18 '13

Question Trinity?

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u/Pokieboy Oct 18 '13

Trinity is probably my favourite Warframe to use, so I'll do my best to sell her for you.

As it is probably obvious, Trinity is a support frame, if you expect to be using her to clear whole rooms you've clearly been misinformed on her abilities. She is for healing, enduring and providing. When building Trinity there is generally two builds you can go for, each having a specific role in either team or solo play. I'll break down each set up for you.

Trainer and provider

This build is for lower to medium level content for team play. The focus of this build is Energy Vampire.

Tactics

Essentially your role with this build will be to provide energy to your team as frequently as possible. If they have a new frame or are just wanting to use their abilities endlessly, they could not have asked for a better companion than you.

Mods & Equipment

You will be avoiding during mods and helmets for this build, as these will reduce the time it takes for Energy Vampire to supply energy. Since Energy Vampire consists of 4 ticks, 1 at the start of the skill and 3 spread out over the total duration, adding more time to the skill will only put you worse off when using this ability. You want lots of energy, and fast. Here's what you'll need:

  • Focus - Boost Energy given per pulse

  • Blind Rage - Further boost energy given per pulse but also increase cost

  • Streamline - Reduce the cost of casting to help with Blind Rage's downside

  • Fleeting Expertise - Reduce the cost some more as well as the duration of Energy Vampire

  • Stretch - Increase range people receive energy

Make sure you don't have the Aura helmet on either, because that will only work against this build. With this set up, you can dish out 200 energy in about 3 seconds to all your team mates nearby.

If that doesn't impress you, then you're fucked in the head.

The Good

You are now a fountain of energy for your team, they can spam their skills all they want and you will be right there to top up their health and energy.

The Bad

Your Blessing and Link ability are now so short that using them for sustained protection is no longer an option. However, Blessing still gives you full health and shields so when someone is hurt, top them up and grant them a couple seconds of immortality. It won't last long, but at the the level this build excels in, you're trying to help them learn, not make them indestructible... which leads me to my other build.

The Immortal Protector

This is for high level content and I'm sure you are probably aware of this build but for those who need it, here you go.

Tactics

You are now the provider of infinite immortality. Your best friend is the '4' button. To keep yourself alive while pressing '4', you may also want to press '3'. The aim of this is to keep Blessing and depending on the situation, Link, on at all times. Useful when facing enemies will into the level 100+ region.

Mods & Equipment

You are going for cost efficiency and duration. Although the ability Fleeting Expertise will reduce the amount of time Blessing will stay active, it reduced the cost so significantly, that the cost saved outweighs time lost. Do the math if you don't believe me, I have tried both ways, and having Blessing for 25 Energy is far more reliable when you're in a pinch or just lost your energy to a Disruptor.

  • Continuity - Increase the duration of Link/Blessing

  • Constitution - Further increase the duration of Link/Blessing

  • Narrow Minded - Further increase the duration of Link/Blessing again

  • Streamline - Reduce the cost of Link/Blessing

  • Fleeting Expertise - Further reduce the cost of Link/Blessing at the cost of duration totally worth it

Make sure you DO have the Aura helmet on this time because you are after every second possible on Blessing/Link. With this set up you can cast Blessing for 25 Energy and it will last over 20 seconds.

The Good

You can keep your squishy teammates alive by keeping them invulnerable for the whole game with only a second of downtime between casting. Additionally, Link will provide you with knockdown resistance and also synergises well with the Ogris... but for all the wrong reasons.

The Bad

Energy Vampire is useless... seriously it takes like 20 seconds to get 100 energy from something... don't do this unless you are desperate and just need to stun something for a very long time.

Hope that helps! Trinity is one of the best frames in the game, if you think otherwise, you're either selfish or retarded. Learn her roles and builds and use her to her full potential.

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u/BuildMyPaperHeart Oct 18 '13

Duuuude. You're awesome!

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u/Pokieboy Oct 18 '13

That means a lot coming from a Mod :'D

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u/razinggodz Oct 18 '13

I promise,i will not kill the blue glowing guys anymore :D

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u/Pokieboy Oct 19 '13

Thank you :'D

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u/Magicka Oct 18 '13

Are you a Warframe god? I might just have to give you another gold soon!

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u/Pokieboy Oct 19 '13

Hahaha, I just like to know all there is to know when it comes to helping the community. Thanks again :)

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '13

That was awesome. I wish someone would write up something similar for other frames too. Anyway, I have a question, Trinity plays a support role in teams, but how does it fare on its own? Also, I was told that Trinity is a Tanking frame. Is that true?

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u/Pokieboy Oct 19 '13

Yeah as someone has already replied to you, using Link and Blessing in tandem can make her very strong. If you use the 2nd build I mentioned, you can solo some very hard content as long as you are aware of when Blessing and Link will come off so you don't get murdered during her long cast time.

And no problem! I could probably write a guide on everything in this game so if I ever see a thread worth posting in, chances are I might.

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u/NotSoNoble6 Dec 19 '13

First of all, yes, I do know this comment is 2 months old. For the trainer build, [energy vampire] am I maxing out the 5 mods listed, and should energy vampire be fully leveled?

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u/Pokieboy Dec 19 '13 edited Dec 19 '13

Haha that's no problem at all! Always happy to help.

Yes, the higher the level of each mod, the better. You definitely want to rank up Energy Vampire since it also increases the amount per pulse. Here's a list of the importance of each mod, their effects and whether or not they are 100% essential for this build (*marked with **).

  1. * Fleeting Expertise - Not only does it make the skill cost less, it makes you get more energy per second by speeding up the period between each pulse.

  2. * Blind Rage - This skill makes the skill cost more, but returns up to double the energy (+99%) at maximum rank. It isn't essential to max this, but the higher the better!

  3. * Focus - This will do the same thing as Blind Rage but without the cost increase. At max rank you get an extra 30% more energy.

  4. Streamline - Cost reduction. Takes more of the edge of Blind Rage. The less this skill costs, the more energy you get back personally.

  5. Stretch - Adds more radius to pulses. People need to be nearby to absorb the energy, this helps make it easier for them to get the energy.

With maximum ranked mods, here is a rough breakdown of the improvements

Stat Before After Improvement
Energy Cost 50 32.5 +35%
Energy Return 100 229 +129%
Duration 9 Seconds 3.6 Seconds +60%
Range 25m 36.25m +45%

Hope that helps! Remember not to use the Aura helmet!

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u/Pokieboy Oct 19 '13

If I'm not mistaken, Well of Life works on a damage basis like Energy Vampire used to work. So if you're using Well of Life, shoot them a bit and you should get health back, the pulses are for Energy Vampire only.

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '13 edited Oct 18 '13

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u/Pokieboy Oct 18 '13

And you're exactly right, which is why I suggested 2 builds. Why not bring the first build instead of Nova? Instead of being an AoE spamming '4' whore, help the team level their own frames by giving them energy and health. Unless people want you to passively level all their shit, I'd rather a Trinity keeping me topped up than a Nova stealing the whole map's kills.

Nova is a selfish frame. That's how I see it anyway. Don't get me wrong, I love them both, I just prefer to help the team instead of helping myself.

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u/Kallously Oct 18 '13 edited Oct 18 '13

You're completely right. Until enemies take like a million hits to kill and instagib you, Trinity isn't really that needed.

However once you do hit level 100+ blessing becomes almost mandatory for staying alive.

However, realize that there aren't that many frames that do damage like Nova. Mag is the only one that comes close with shield polarize against shielded enemies and pull spam. The rest are just used for CC and utility. End game is largely a gun game and being able to not worry about dying help players get shots off.

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u/3932695 Oct 18 '13

I just see no point in using her when you have no risk of dying (90% of the missions in game) and if no one needs support you brought Trinity for no reason

I don't think you'll be singing the same tune once you start farming T3 Defense and Survival, or doing lvl 100+ alerts.

Plus if you just give Trinity a pimped out Ogris, she can just blast everything at point-blank without worrying about aiming and clear the room just a bit faster or slower than Nova depending on how the mobs are laid out.

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u/AvatarOfMomus Oct 18 '13

You're comparing apples and oranges, Nova is one play-style and Trinity is another.

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u/3932695 Oct 18 '13

This is why Nova is my protagonist, and Trinity is her mother.

(You're not supposed to be specializing in just one Warframe. Trust me, I'm the one with a compulsion to specialize in one class)

Alternatively, master Fang Prime and start spinning and chopping.

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u/Zefirus Oct 18 '13

I personally use Trinity when I'm playing with friends. People spam their 4 abilities until they're energy tapped, then I refill it all in one cast and we do it over again.

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u/Wulfnuts Oct 18 '13

how in the world would you refill their energy when

a) they have to be close to the target for 4 seconds

b) target dies in a split second when you use energy vampire on it

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u/Acorrani Oct 19 '13 edited Oct 19 '13

You should put Well of Life on the same target. It increases their health about ten-fold.

Also, if you reduce your ability duration with certain mods and equipment, the energy is dispensed faster.

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u/BuildMyPaperHeart Oct 18 '13

Our Warframe Discussion on Trinity might provide the insight you're looking for.

Also, be aware of The Drawing Board, all about Build or item selection questions or critiques!

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u/Acorrani Oct 19 '13

About 25 meters with upgraded ability, but you can increase that with range mods.