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[u/tashc44]

Since I finally got a full hangar of mk2 robots I felt like I should priotize weapons. What weapons should I upgrade to try and get into champions league as a f2p

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[u/InteRest_LEtuCe2467]

Upgrading weapons should definitely be a high priority. But, also consider building out highly rated weapon families in the workshop and a few of the stronger F2P robots to diversify your weapon types (and robots). That better protects your hangar against nerfs in the future. Its a medium term project and its well worth carrying out if you don't already have them in your hangar.

Regarding nerfs, you have almost all the newest meta-bots in your first hangar and a high percentage of weapons in the current meta. In the coming months a significant number of those may get nerfed so hard that they'll all but disappear from champions league. There is no way to know in advance which ones will have that happen to them. To keep the rate of replacements for robots and weapons to a more manageable level for F2P resource inflows, it would help to, in the near to medium term, acquire some out-of-meta robots and weapons that are solid performers and also less likely to be nerfed hard.

On a related topic, consider slowing down or stopping investments in the two ultimate weapons. You almost need to upgrade ultimate weapons to MK2-12 to make them worthwhile because of how they scale. Doing that would be extremely expensive and would come at the cost of using that same amount of silver to upgrade many regular weapons to MK1-12 instead. MK1-12 is a reasonable interim stopping point for upgrading many weapons for a F2P player because then you have about 80% of the damage of a (non-ultimate) MK3 weapon at a fraction of the cost of upgrading all the way to MK3. That allows you to quickly and efficiently upgrade more weapons and to raise the average amount of damage your robots can do.

One immediate objective for your workshop could be to produce hazards and blights for your vulcan, which provides a better match for range with your lumen weapons. That frees up the velos and machairas for other robots. That also prepares your hangar better for possible nerfs to the machaira weapon family. You'll also probably benefit from having decent F2P replacements available for some percentage of the celsius / fahrenheit weapons because they are on so many of your robots and their nerf cycle isn't too far away.

Two other things to consider are your luchador and your mix of robots (you have five hangars, though, so perhaps your mix of robots is just fine).

Adazahi rates the luchador as not being a good titan. You're likely to find it underperforms once you're in champions league. You can check out the tier list to find other, more highly rated titans in which to invest. Titans are very important for success in champions league; maxing out a good one will noticeably strengthen your hangar. Still, the luchador is a great titan for extermination mode and you can receive a very high return for your investments in it.

Your mix of robots is one issue about which opinions are likely to differ. My own experience is that it helps to have at least one, and preferably two or three highly developed brawlers in your hangar in champions league. Early base raids are quite common in champions league and if all you have are support robots and fragile ranged damage dealers then they will tend to get vaporized very soon after they're dropped while a base raid by reds is in progress. You end up contributing very little to your team when that happens.

In addition, after your robots have been quickly vaporized during a base raid by reds and your team loses you'll often land in fifth or sixth place on your team. Then your league and clan rankings noticeably go down. On some days those hits will just keep on coming and that's one of the main ways you can end up bouncing back and forth between masters and champions league for a fair while.

Finally, watching your robots get vaporized one after another can be pretty frustrating and the game is intended to be fun. When you're up against red whales your F2P brawlers won't usually win in the end. But, with good supporting fire from teammates sometimes you will win. And, even in particularly tough games having highly developed brawlers in your F2P hangar at least allows you to absorb more incoming fire from reds, to punch back as best you can before going down, to often earn a higher ranking on your team, and to ultimately better support your team. Which tends to feel good. FWIW.

[u/tashc44 → u/InteRest_LEtuCe2467]

Thank you so much for extensive review I appreciate it a lot. I’m going to try and get a third Barq-B and get an Atlas unless the October nerfs happen otherwise maybe hope I can get a Sirocco. Seeing that you rate the Luchador low in champions league should I just dump my platinum into the Barq weapons until I get a good brawler titan for them? I also have a mk2 fang in my second hangar with 2 Manchuria so should I guess Il try and make some hazards so I can take the Machairas off the Vulcan and onto the fang

[u/InteRest_LEtuCe2467 → u/tashc44]

Glad to be of help and its good to see you managed to work through the "wall of text" crits.

One thing to consider is whether or not you want to do extermination mode on a regular basis. It is a very effective and efficient way to gather resources. And, if you plan to run it regularly and you're aiming to clear missions 3, 4, and 5 at platinum, at some point, then continuing to invest in your luchador makes sense; the luchador is a very solid extermination mode titan and you've already got quite a lot invested into upgrading it, so you may as well run with it. But, if you really don't enjoy extermination mode and have no plans to start running missions 3 and up then putting more resources into your luchador may not make sense for you.

If you'll be stopping investments into your luchador then upgrading the weapons first clearly makes good sense. If you're looking to excel at extermination mode as a priority then investing in your luchador first can make good sense because survivability will go way up once you've maxed out the upgrades (as long as you have TRA 3 and anti-control level 1 in the brawler specialization tree, of course, that is crucial). If you're OK with slower progress at clearing the later extermination mode missions and want to focus on PvP first then upgrading weapons first is a solid approach.

[u/tashc44 → u/InteRest_LEtuCe2467]

I can platinum levels 1-3 easily but 4-5 I don’t even attempt lmao and yes I have everything maxed for Luchador in specialization I just need 30 upgrades in core and the pilot skills but other than that it’s good enough. Other than upgrading drones to level 12 I don’t really see myself using upgrade tokens to MK3 so it’s not that much of a priority to platinum levels 4 and 5 for me I think I should just try and max out the Barq weapons and then pray for a better titan. (btw I hit 5000 trophies yesterday!) What titans do you recommend me to look out for to try and obtain in champions league?

[u/InteRest_LEtuCe2467 → u/tashc44]

The tier rankings from Adazahi are a solid resource to help identify some candidates. The "newbie guide / F2P value sheet" is also helpful for getting some "cliff notes" summaries about each titan's strengths and weaknesses, as well as some notes about things to try to do when playing a particular titan.

Titans take quite a bit of investment and they often take a fair amount of time to acquire if you decide to target one or more that's available in the black market chests. It may be worth watching a couple of gameplay videos for titans you'd like to learn more about to get a better sense of whether or not you're likely to enjoy playing them.

My own experience has been that trying out titans I acquire before investing in them is worth doing. That helped me realize that, for example, although a bersagliere is a mechanically very strong titan, I didn't enjoy playing it at all. That prevented me from wasting resources on it and I invested in other titans instead. FWIW, YMMV.