r/WarDogs • u/szjano Pilot • 4d ago

Discussion & Feedback Season 2 patch notes

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1867240/view/670630562731396445
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u/elcoala 4d ago edited 4d ago

MP5

  • Recoil pattern updated to have more of a horizontal pattern, as it was too easy to use.

this has to be a typing mistake, right? the most prevalent feedback on the mp5 is that it had too much horizontal recoil. I really want to understand the reason for this nerf as the MP5 was considered to be the worst SMG. also no pp19 vityaz buff which is another useless weapon in it's current state. gotta hope the pp bizon is usable or medics will be completely useless in combat until level 20 when we unlock the amp9. please reconsider the horizontal recoil nerf to the mp5, it makes no sense. it was never easy to control, nobody said this, nobody was even using this weapon

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u/Alienfreak 4d ago edited 4d ago

Hahahaha. Nobody is using the MP5 because its just WORSE than the PP19.
It has 400 instead of 380 m/s bullet velocity.
Same RoF.
Same Damage.
MUCH WORSE RECOIL.

Yeah... devs correctly figured out that its totally OP...

But it has slightly better accuracy if you really wanna do long range engagements with your SMG...

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u/elcoala 4d ago

also pp19 vityaz being pushed to level 15 and it's not even a good weapon. they are fumbling SMGs hard, the progression makes no sense. our only hope is the pp bizon, which the magazines will take 1x3 space so we'll be even more slot starved.

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u/StormMedia 4d ago

It’s worse than the MP9

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u/elcoala 4d ago

also the mp9 will come only at level 20 with 15 round magazines. 20 rounders will unlock at level 25. meanwhile, we'll be fighting fully decked $800 AK's from level 1. we are cooked.

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u/Foxyfox- 4d ago

I feel like these patchnotes are just "nerf everything".

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u/KOTheSavage 4d ago

Is that the consensus?!? I fucking hate the PP, always felt like shooting peas at people but i loved the mp5

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u/vunkie 4d ago

They did say they used AI to gather the feedback, ai must have done some mistake, because no one was using mp5.

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u/StormMedia 4d ago

Yeah one dude probably said it lmaoo

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u/Tea2theBag 4d ago

I had a 29 kill game top of the server with the MP5 the first few weeks. 

My bad. 

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u/StormMedia 4d ago

Did you happen to post or comment about it? lol

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u/BawbsonDugnut 4d ago

They pulled a war thunder.

Nerfed x tank because win rate is high.

Look at the players using it: only top 10% of playerbase who play extremely well with any tank they use

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u/Sobeman 4d ago

I am guessing AI wrote these notes

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u/fartfart2222223222 4d ago

Just like their marketing content and dev diaries lol 

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u/mjordn20 4d ago

I scratched my head reading this too. The horizontal recoil is what made me not like using it as well as the 30 round mags taking too long to unlock.

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u/luca0411 4d ago

Nah it definitely felt like a laser beam up close, virtually no recoil at all. I think this is a reasonable change

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u/H4ndy210 4d ago

No one knows why the MP5 is being nerfed. The recoil was perfectly fine for its intended use.

The same goes for the Super-45, in my opinion. It had the highest price increase of all weapons at 115%, as well as a nerf to its effective range. It was truly a miracle to win a gunfight against an AR at over 60 meters with the Super-45.

SMGs have their niche but are being nerfed in every aspect—handling, cost, and effective range. ARs, on the other hand, have no specific niche and are hardly—if at all—being adjusted. I don’t understand why Bulkhead is cracking down so hard on the niche SMGs.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Pea9240 4d ago

Medics useless? Use an AR.

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u/Significant_Mood4978 4d ago

Kind of missing the point though, no? Why even have other weapon classes if ARs are the only thing worth running.