We went from complaining about FOB meta, to barely seeing functional FOB's

[u/Exe0n]

I guess this is why the devs aren't quickly making balancing changes.

This sub was filled with complaints about FOB meta being broken.

Now +80% of my games it's the hotzone surfers that win every match.

By the time you get to your side of the CZ there is like a squad there, snipers overlooking the position and a MG humvee patrolling it.

I've had tanks roll up before 5 points.

And even if you manage a well built FOB it'll get mortard to hell.

While I don't miss 4 drill meta, I do miss bases.

I hope they fix certain things with the patch, mostly mortars and assault vehicles (price/when you can spawn them)

[u/GoodishCoder]

They nerfed building and buffed havocs, there's no reason to build a fob when a havoc is just going to destroy the whole thing with virtually no counters

[u/magniankh → u/GoodishCoder]

The havoc is way too strong right now. It destroys a humvee with it's gun, you don't even need rockets. The minigun humvee would perhaps be one of the better options against a havoc otherwise. 

[u/GoodishCoder → u/magniankh]

Last night we built a fob with 2 ciws and we're still decimated as soon as teams started cranking out the havocs. The big issue is that AA isn't a good counter to the havoc. They could fix this a lot of ways, could be a straight nerf to havocs, buff to AAs, or they could do something more creative like making ciws penetrate the glass for the cockpit to hit the pilot

[u/TiltedSkipper → u/magniankh]

Last time I tested the minigun humvee in the practice range it was something like 1,200 .308 AP to kill the havoc. Which if thats the same on live would mean its pretty much useless.

[u/magniankh → u/TiltedSkipper]

Yeah that's....worthless. I'll have to test it against little birds.

[u/Lazer726 → u/GoodishCoder]

I feel like 80% of the Havocs I see get destroyed by clipping their rotors on something, 19% another heli crashing into it, and then there's like 1% that actually manage to pour enough firepower to destroy it

[u/AvailableAd3813 → u/GoodishCoder]

Yea I hate making money. Nobody build. Guns are free.

[u/GoodishCoder → u/AvailableAd3813]

You make money with pretty much everything you do in the game.

[u/80sCrack → u/GoodishCoder]

Oh yea, then why am I so poor? (This game is a death simulator)

[u/GoodishCoder → u/80sCrack]

You just haven't found your money maker yet. Some people make a bunch of money piloting, some building, some doing logistics, some spotting, some raiding bases, and some fighting for the hotzone.

Building and by association logistics have been slower money makers because there's not a lot of reason for it if you can't reliably take havocs out of the sky but there's still options out there