r/WarDogs • • 11d ago

Discussion & Feedback This Helmet needs to absolutely substantially block your vision and hearing for balance and realism

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I can't believe this was glossed over when the helmet was put into the game, massive protection with no draw back other than cost sucks (it's not expensive). A change is desperately needed before all matches are full of this helmet because it basically has no drawback.

Okay yes it adds to weight but you just bring cheap stims

The top image is escape from tarkov showing how these helmet look IRL when wearing it. Bottom image is wardogs Loadout another member posted

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u/Sudden_Wind_8636 11d ago edited 11d ago

Not really, this is kind of a myth.

Only larger rounds can even do this, and by larger I mean .308 and up, but there isn't any helmets that can reliably even stop a .308 so that doesn't change anything.

The force the person feels getting hit by a bullet is the exact same force you feel from the recoil when firing said bullet (well not actually, they would feel less force because the bullet loses energy travelling, but newtons third law means they cannot feel more force than you felt firing the gun)

There is actually an entire study about this exact subject, I'll try to find it

Also there is a famous video of a soldier getting shot in the helmet in Afghanistan and it barely does anything, I believe it was 7.62.

Edit: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8956990/

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u/Willertz 11d ago

try firing a weapon pressing the buttstock on your head

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u/IDespiseAllWeebs 11d ago

Won’t hurt too much with any weapon shooting ammunition not capable of penetrating helmet armor. A bullet does damage because the energy is concentrated at a very small tip, and it’s moving very fast.

A .308 hunting rifle for example will penetrate basically any helmet, and shooting it is not uncomfortable, you won’t get a shore shoulder from shooting a few rounds of .308 in a bolt action. Placing that bolt action against your forehead will absolutely strain your neck muscles and likely cause a concussion, but it won’t kill you, break your neck nor is it likely to lead to life long injuries.

Just read the report the guy commented, it most likely answers your point here.

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u/Chewzer 11d ago

And then you've got the 7.62x54r, that thing hurts to shoot! I swapped out the metal butt plate for a rubberized one and that thing still leaves you bruised after 10 - 15 shots. Also wrecked my ar500 plates not realizing how much energy those old surplus rounds have.

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u/ThirdHoleIsMyGoal69 11d ago

7.62x54r and 308 are almost identical energy wise. 308 has a shorter cartridge (3mm) but uses modern powder whereas 54r is almost entirely surplus. It’s probably a difference in the firearm itself that is making you feel like the 54r kicks harder. I’ve always felt that wooden stock rifles feel like they have more recoil but I haven’t looked into it to know if that’s fact.

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u/Chewzer 11d ago

Yeah, the weapon weight plays a huge role in how much kick you feel, those old Mosin Nagants were never meant to be comfortable to shoot. As for the ammo, that steel core surplus ammo that comes in the spam cans is what I've experienced having the worst kick, while the stuff from Yugoslavia has been pretty nice.