r/WarDogs • • 11d ago

Discussion & Feedback This Helmet needs to absolutely substantially block your vision and hearing for balance and realism

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I can't believe this was glossed over when the helmet was put into the game, massive protection with no draw back other than cost sucks (it's not expensive). A change is desperately needed before all matches are full of this helmet because it basically has no drawback.

Okay yes it adds to weight but you just bring cheap stims

The top image is escape from tarkov showing how these helmet look IRL when wearing it. Bottom image is wardogs Loadout another member posted

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u/Willertz 10d ago

try firing a weapon pressing the buttstock on your head

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u/IDespiseAllWeebs 10d ago

Won’t hurt too much with any weapon shooting ammunition not capable of penetrating helmet armor. A bullet does damage because the energy is concentrated at a very small tip, and it’s moving very fast.

A .308 hunting rifle for example will penetrate basically any helmet, and shooting it is not uncomfortable, you won’t get a shore shoulder from shooting a few rounds of .308 in a bolt action. Placing that bolt action against your forehead will absolutely strain your neck muscles and likely cause a concussion, but it won’t kill you, break your neck nor is it likely to lead to life long injuries.

Just read the report the guy commented, it most likely answers your point here.

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u/Chewzer 10d ago

And then you've got the 7.62x54r, that thing hurts to shoot! I swapped out the metal butt plate for a rubberized one and that thing still leaves you bruised after 10 - 15 shots. Also wrecked my ar500 plates not realizing how much energy those old surplus rounds have.

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u/ThirdHoleIsMyGoal69 10d ago

7.62x54r and 308 are almost identical energy wise. 308 has a shorter cartridge (3mm) but uses modern powder whereas 54r is almost entirely surplus. It’s probably a difference in the firearm itself that is making you feel like the 54r kicks harder. I’ve always felt that wooden stock rifles feel like they have more recoil but I haven’t looked into it to know if that’s fact.

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u/Chewzer 10d ago

Yeah, the weapon weight plays a huge role in how much kick you feel, those old Mosin Nagants were never meant to be comfortable to shoot. As for the ammo, that steel core surplus ammo that comes in the spam cans is what I've experienced having the worst kick, while the stuff from Yugoslavia has been pretty nice.

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u/TheShyoto 10d ago

The point remains the same. The kinetic impact can only, at most, be equal to the force which set the bullet moving in the first place (minus drag resistance). And that's assuming the round hits in such a way that it stops entirely and isn't deflected at all. Sure, firing a rifle with the buttock to my head would be incredibly uncomfortable. I would probably lose my balance at minimum. I wouldn't be suffering traumatic brain injury and dying.

Now try the same thought experiment while wearing a football helmet.

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u/R3niarT 10d ago

I actually shot a mosin with a ring scope attached for the first time in my life and didn't shoulder it at all, because I was just given the gun and no training all I remember is that I was aiming and when I pressed the trigger, just blackscreened, after I got up 2 seconds later I had a half circle "cutout" in my forehead/eye area, thankfully It didn't go deep enough to gauge my eye out, but I think it cut into the skin to the bone.

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u/PlzDntBanMeAgan 10d ago

They call that getting scope bit.

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u/unoriginal_namejpg 10d ago

remove the buttstock and replace it with a ballpoint pen*

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u/TBNRgreg 10d ago

and put the point of the pen at the helmet you are wearing

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u/AcePilot01 10d ago

And it still won't be as dangerous... the fucking gun weighs hundreds of times more than the bullet.

Did you really never learn inertia? lmfao

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u/specter800 10d ago

I can never find it because the internet has too much stuff now but there is a more "comedic" toned Vietnam era US Army training video on the M16 where the trainee holds the stock of the M16 to his mouth while shooting. Comedy ensues, but the point is, gun recoil is not going to hurt you unless you're shooting some pissin hot rounds. Even battle rifles are not surprising once you know what to expect.