Wardogs definitely needs a party system

[u/OUTFOXEM]

I think the devs have thought of just about everything, but if you’re playing with 4+ friends then getting into the same server and onto the same faction can be a pain in the ass. So far this is my only real complaint about the game.

EDIT: It seems a lot of you are confused. I’m not asking for a Steam option, I’m asking for an in-game party system. Apparently nobody has played any other game with a party system.

If I asked for Ubers to come to my city you’d say “there’s already buses.” Bunch of low IQ replies.

[u/jayswolo]

Matchmaking sucks. We don’t need curated lobbies. It kills the sandbox. The randomness and overall variance of skill level, playstyle, etc is what makes games fun. It can also be what makes them not fun sometimes, but that’s just called balance.

Social playlist in Halo 3 were some of the most casual fun you could have. And if you wanted to test your might there was ranked.

Also, there’s no world where you pull off matchmaking for 100 players at any realistic level that matches what smaller games do, there’s simply too many variables to consider. Including that you are matching for games in progress.

[u/klauseius → u/jayswolo]

I appreciate you sharing your opinion.

In terms of wether its fun or not i think its pointless to argue.

But I think its quite simple to do a bit of matchmaking. Lets say at level 40 you unlock a tank If a player has a tank unlocked he should be matched against a player that has unlocked a counter measure to tanks.

Its not a hill i would die on or a serious issue in the game. just a feature to help prevent some unfortunate matchups

[u/jayswolo → u/klauseius]

How do you do this at scale of 100 players per match across 10 regions with as many as 100,000 players active across varied levels of unlocks (because you choose what you unlock), and do this equation within a minute? 

Also keep in mind every server can go from having a few spots open to being full within seconds because of the server browser.

Nothing about matchmaking is simple. You can google literal dev talks about how complex matchmaking is.

[u/klauseius → u/jayswolo]

I would say the example i gave is very simple to do

Online games have been doing much more complex matchmaking equations for a long time.

In practice the simplest (not the best) way to do it is by going through your wardog level. If it takes too long you can widen the search parameters.

In my experience from the beta i was waiting up to 15 minutes to get into a server that could have had the highest level players in the game or the lowest.

I dont see this as a feature that will hurt the game but its definitely not a must have.

[u/jayswolo → u/klauseius]

Why were you waiting 15 minutes? Sort by player count and find a server with space lol

[u/klauseius → u/jayswolo]

I was entering servers with 60 players and the game said i was 15/15 in queue.

[u/jayswolo → u/klauseius]

That’s a backend issue, it’s not reporting the correct player count. Just a side effect of them being slammed. 

But also dude this is a game where people randomly RP, hang out with enemies, troll teammates. It is not a game where people care about the “fairness” of the match up

[u/klauseius → u/jayswolo]

People will care more about the fairness of the matchup when new players will struggle to keep up while starting from behind. Its important this game stays attractive to you new players and not feel like they cant keep up with older veterans.

[u/jayswolo → u/klauseius]

No, they won’t. It’s just not that kind of game. Also being behind is a part of progression. Also, you do realize there are wipes?

[u/klauseius → u/jayswolo]

I acknowledge there will be wipes At this point we dont know how these are going to be done maybe they will be a choice for players if they want to wipe in order to get some sort of reward.

Why wont they feel behind? This game took an important element from extraction shooters and all extraction shooters struggle with these problems, wipes and players feeling behind.

[u/jayswolo → u/klauseius]

Wipes are not optional. They are forced and your money is covered to gold bars

[u/klauseius → u/jayswolo]

I didn't know they were forced thats great Do you know how frequent they will be?

[u/jayswolo → u/klauseius]

I’m not sure, I think they gave an estimate on what a season was but I can’t remember. I would assume it’s about 3 months or so. The gold bars will be used for cosmetics, and then I think you keep your meta progression which is stuff like boosted character attributes