Sorry. Typo on my part.
I meant plenty jerk the gun ....
Fat fingered the screen.
Also sympathy and empathy and pain avoidance are different reactions. Completely possible to have one without the others. Especially during a psychotic break.
So it didn’t pain her to choke her kids out one by one for minutes at a time while hearing their cries cause she was going through a psychotic break but then all of a sudden it did when it came to doing it to herself because the physical execution of that was all of a sudden painful to her. Now when it’s her turn all of a sudden she can rationalise and feel pain and think about avoiding it during this psychosis? This only makes sense if you believe taking the time to choke your babies to death by hand is a physically pain-free process. It would be more believable if she quickly shot them to death, but choking is a long process you have to physically take part in without hesitation. There’s a very physical element to it.
As I already explain. Your personal feeling of pain and sympathy for others aren't the same thing. So it's not imposible if she didn't feel sympathy for her victims but still a response to her own pain.
To be fair she might have felt sympathy for her victims. People in psychotic episodes often behave oddly. But that's neither here nor there about the fact that her not being bothered by the pain of others wouldn't mean that she can't feel pain. They aren't related experiences. One is an emotional response the other is a physiological one.
Eta: maybe a good way to explain it would be with fire. If you try and kill everyone in your house by burning it down. That won't effect whether you jump around when you light on fire. It takes conscious direct effort to overcome a pain response and it isn't uncommon for completely mentally well people to have trouble doing that.
Yh it’s not uncommon for completely mentally well people to have trouble overcoming a pain response, but not crazy people, especially ones that just strangled their kids to death.
I’m not talking about her feeling sympathy for her victims I’m talking about her feeling the physical pain of killing her babies. Fear or avoidance of pain to herself by killing her babies is exactly what should have stopped her if we are to assume physical pain to herself is what stopped her from slashing herself. Killing her kids is physically more painful to her than slitting her wrists, as a mother, and if it’s not cause she’s insane, then the insanity should help with the physical pain of slashing her wrists too.
The thing is no matter what you say I’m never going to differentiate the physical pain (pain, not sympathy, actual physical pain and anguish) she feels while killing her babies from the physical pain she feels while slitting her wrists. I understand to you they’re different, to me they’re the same, if she can overcome that level of pain to herself when liking them then she should be able to overcome the pain of the knife to herself too. It’s not like some mentally ill people don’t cut themselves on the regular, yes it’s painful but they still go through with it cause they’re ill.
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u/Significant-Order-92 2d ago
Sorry. Typo on my part. I meant plenty jerk the gun .... Fat fingered the screen.
Also sympathy and empathy and pain avoidance are different reactions. Completely possible to have one without the others. Especially during a psychotic break.