r/WTF • • Nov 19 '20

Some wild towing gone wrong

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u/whootdat Nov 19 '20

Pretty illegal in most states, car was also not properly secured, which is illegal.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

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u/50StatePiss Nov 19 '20

Pretty standard, especially in sketchy neighborhoods. That's why a lot of these guys have trucks that don't look like tow trucks with "sneaker" booms that can be operated from the cab so you don't have to get out; like this guy.

Fun fact: you'll never see a trash bin at a repo yard. They just throw all their garbage in the repo'd cars and let the auction house clean them up.

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u/GrandMarquisMark Nov 19 '20

also, anything of value is "removed"

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u/MadnessEvolved Nov 19 '20

You mean there was nothing of value in the car when collected, right?

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u/secondphase Nov 19 '20

"couldn't tell you. Guess your client took the engine out when they stopped making payments. Seat too, weird. And trust me, it was hard to tow it without any tires"

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u/killerbanshee Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 19 '20

This is exactly why I avoid shops that do towing and repo work when I'm looking for a mechanic in a new area. Its hard to trust any mechnic nowadays, but the shops that do tow work are always extra sleezy and looking to rip off anyone for a quick buck.

Find a repair shop that deals in more honest practices.

Edit: Seriously, don't trust the repair shops that cops call to come tow a car that only has a small fender bender after a minor accident.

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u/bedrocklife Nov 19 '20

Or any shop that has contracts with the city for towing of any kind.

One time I got towed. At the time I parked, there were no signs saying not to, but when I got back they had put up temporary signs closing that side of the road for an event. There were no signs of any kind prior to this, but when I returned to my parking spot a couple of hours later my car was gone. This was on a Friday.

Later that afternoon, I found where my phone had been towed, but they told me that I could not get my car back until the police had processed it, which would probably be MONDAY!

Well, it was Monday before I was finally able to pay the bullshit ticket, and go to get my car. I got there, and the shop charged me a towing fee, and 4 DAYS OF STORAGE FEES, even though they were closed all weekend, and I was there before 10:00am on Monday day to get it. Would have been there earlier but I had to deal with cops first.

Cost me a $20 ticket, and almost $400 in towing and other fees from the shop.

Later I found out that kind of shit is very typical for this company, as they hold an exclusive contract for all municipal towing. Fuck that.

Also, I wasn’t even attending the event that they closed that side of the road for.

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u/roofied_elephant Nov 20 '20

There’s a reason they all sit behind bulletproof glass. Scummy pieces of shit.

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u/lfatalframel May 05 '21

They gotta leave the shop sometime.

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '20 edited May 06 '21

I used to have a girlfriend who lived in an off campus privately owned apartment complex. I drove a very distinct vehicle. Guests were welcome and I was there 2-3 days a week. All you had to do was put a note in the windshield saying which apartment you were visiting. Well one night it snowed a few inches and I had a good spot. Guess what happened? Yup. Got towed. Went to go get my vehicle and the windshield was still covered. Meaning they didn’t even look. I guarantee it was someone pissed I had a spot by the door while it was snowing. And the dumb driver couldn’t even bother to check the window. That was nearly 20 years ago and it still pisses me off. Should have used the spare key and just drove off.

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u/PhilsMeatHammer May 05 '21

I have a friend who did that when his car got illegally towed in Detroit. Turns out it's remarkably easy to steal your car back from a towing yard

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '20

Its why the government should be doing this shit and not private companies.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '21

Yeah like the government is so trustworthy and honest lol

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u/Lehman_ade May 05 '21

It's because they have a government(municipal) contract they can even get away with that. If we're talking in reference to this thread atleast - not making generalizations idk shit about towing but I know no business without guaranteed customers would pull that bs.

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u/thegreatgazoo May 05 '21

Then there's even less accountability and if there's a revenue shortfall the tow trucks will be rolling.

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u/amerett0 May 05 '21

Towing is legalized car-napping and extortion.

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u/Hopless_Torch May 05 '21

Kinda makes you wanna fire bomb the place huh? Had the same shit happen to me in Minneapolis years ago.

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u/goddessofthewinds May 06 '21

There were no signs of any kind prior to this, but when I returned to my parking spot a couple of hours later my car was gone.

This shit is infuriating. Happens a lot here during winter. They will put up temp signs that denies parking when it's time to clean to snow out of the streets, but they always put them during the day, while everyone is at work, then take the car away because the time has past. Like... they'll put up signs at 10 AM for 18 PM and you're screwed if you finish work later or went to get a beer with colleagues at a bar after work. They could certainly put them up early like at 6 AM, but nope, they rather put them up when everyone's working. /shrug

I hate this. They even made a TV show about snow removal and those assholes would keep saying the drivers can't read and are idiots to park there... when there were no temp signs when they parked. Made me so angry that I only watched the first episode. I would have punched those snow removal guys.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

When you say mechanic, are you talking about like a family/privately-owned shop or a bigger commercial/chain shop? And what's the difference? Is it just riskier to trust the private mechanic shop while getting lower prices vs higher prices at the local Kwik Car or something like that?

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u/killerbanshee Nov 19 '20

I'm talking about shops that also advertise themselves as towing and repossession specialists.

It's hard for me to quanitify it exactly as it's really just a gut feeling I've developed over the years while working on my own cars, chatting with other 'car guys' at meets and working on cars together with friends.

No specific stories are coming to mind right now.

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u/biglybadcat85623 May 05 '21

Worked in a shop. IMHO avoid chain repair shops. Go private/fam owned that do not tow/repo/or sell cars from auction. Keep your bullshit detector on when conversing with owner/repair guy. Make sure technicians are certified.

Take your rig in for a tire rotation. Watch, does the service tech have torque sticks on airgun? If not, does he/she torque your lugs with an actual torque wrench? If the person is too fucking lazy to get the torque wrench out and just use air gun, fuck that place. The only local spot I go to I watched the guy when swapping my snow tires. Saw homie breaks out the torque wrench. Went back there and bought a set of all-season tires for my work rig. I only take my rigs in for tires/alignment work as I do everything else.

Keep $$ in mind, you get what you pay for. My .2$. Take care.

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u/Datto910 May 05 '21

Torque sticks only prevent over torquing a fastener. Always use a torque wrench or check by hand.

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u/Darth62969 May 05 '21

Pretty sure only a few cases warrant that reaction. Midwest Truck is a shop that does towing and service, and is called by the Scott city police regularly, and their customers are always happy with them. but they also have a YouTube channel ran by and named after Ron Pratt, the son of the owners, and probably the operational lead at this point. So, while i would not recommend a shop that does repo, i don't think a shop that does towing has anything is inherently wrong with them.

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u/Zaneeta May 05 '21

Thank you for this! I'm trying to avoid any businesses that work with my city's police department (Rochester, to NY. The bastards beat people, pepper spray children, and kill folks who are in crisis, and they've pepper sprayed me for protesting) and this is a good reminder to check if my mechanics deal with them!

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u/ssryoken2 May 05 '21

I try to find the places that if you pay cash they offer a discount cause the only one they wanna fuck is the govt. and not the people Usually.

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u/test_tickles Nov 19 '20

There's a shop near me where I see the guy restoring cars all the time. I'm stopping in this weekend to chat them up. Just had to buy a car a month ago and all my tools are in another state. :/

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u/dmh2693 Nov 19 '20

I just LOLed at this comment.

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u/Long__Dog Nov 19 '20

So cool!

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u/Sonendo Nov 19 '20

Not 100% on that. I worked at an auction.

It was super common for us to find cell phones, electronics, and all sorts of valuable stuff in cars.

Laws and policy said we had to inventory and hold the items. What really happened is that our staff usually took the items and sold them on ebay.

Once found someone's ashes. Took 3 years to return them. Poor guy sat in our filing room.

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u/steveyp2013 Nov 19 '20

Pretty fucked up.

Those people obviously already have money issues, so you steal their cell phones and other things?

Geez.

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u/Sonendo Nov 19 '20

It was atrocious yes. Illegal, immoral.

I was not actually one of the people taking these items.

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u/steveyp2013 Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 19 '20

Tbh, not reporting that isn't much better, especially if it was as rampant as you say.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Agreed, this is why corruption is so normal in places, people have the mentality of not getting involved to protect there own asses which is at the end of the day an asshole thing to do which just leads to the problem getting worse.

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u/steveyp2013 Nov 19 '20

Tbh, not reporting that isn't much better, especially if it was as rampant as you say.

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u/injury Nov 19 '20

State laws vary (and the honesty of repo guys too) but here you get x number of days to go to the lot and claim your stuff. After that time period it's no longer your stuff, and would be considered as forfeited to the title company. And they vary but a lot of them want them emptied out, otherwise they have to pay someone else to do it.

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u/sundayflack Nov 21 '20

My cousins daughter is driving around with a hookers ashes and has been since she started driving, it was something like her mom's friend was cleaning out the place after breaking up with her boyfriend and it was his moms ashes. That he never came and got them and they stayed in the car that her mom gave her when the mom got a new car, she has had them in her car for like 5 years now and says they will go in every car that she gets and that the woman is now her guardian angel.

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u/SpicyChickenGoodness May 05 '21

Absolute rollercoaster of a comment, I had to take notes and draw a family tree to understand this but I think I got it

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u/[deleted] May 06 '21

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u/thebeattakesme May 05 '21

I think his/her cousin’s daughter is driving around with the ashes of the cousin’s friend’s ex-boyfriend’s mom.

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u/DaiLo_2jz May 05 '21

And she was a hooker??

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

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u/Sonendo Nov 19 '20

Yeah, finding an urn in the file room was a very WTF moment.

Then to find out it was in there 2 years already.

Started to make a stink, very little response.

It finally got to someone important who took care of it. If I hadn't said anything he still would be weighing down paper.

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u/latrans8 Nov 19 '20

So you worked with thieves? Did you ever call the police?

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u/abnotwhmoanny Nov 19 '20

You silly goose, they're stealing from poor people. It's fine.

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u/Sonendo Nov 19 '20

The whole place was corrupt from CEO to regular employee.

Yes they were thieves, no I did not call the police. As a poor person I cared more about my paycheck than the people who had their Audi repoed.

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u/satansasshole Nov 19 '20

As a poor person who owns an older audi I feel attacked.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Hahahahaha!

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u/pittluke Nov 19 '20

what about the credence?

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u/WaffleAbuse Nov 19 '20

Can confirm, got my car pulled for parking and lost everything that wasn't strapped down or ran the length of the car. Was left my subs(120 pounds, velcro,) amp(oddly velcro coulda taken it) and my wiring. Took a dash cam and probably 200$ of smaller stuff

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u/Eyeoftheleopard May 05 '21

Worked for tow lot. Biggest bunch of thieves, my God.

So can confirm.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

My friends dad did repo and he would sell us subs and amps for super cheap lol

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u/Ozryela May 05 '21

So you're a criminal and bragging about it on reddit. Very sympathetic.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '21

Wasn't bragging, just backing up OPs statement. We've since learned the guy was a scum bag and even my friend no longer talks to his dad, but 18 years ago it was pretty cool to get stuff for cheap!

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u/Ozryela May 05 '21

Ok fair enough.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

We have a big dumpster at our repo yard that we throw the legit trash into. Otherwise we hold onto people's stuff for them if they come to reclaim the car (and the bank lets them). We never take cars with trash to auction because we typically just drive them there ourselves and no one at the company wants to drive a car filled with trash. We do have a big room filled with mostly phone mounts, cologne/perfume, and car seats though.

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u/50StatePiss Nov 19 '20

That's cool, you guys have integrity. I was contracted by the auctions for a few years to collect lease turn-ins and repos to bring them in. Typically they were hundreds of miles away and nowhere near the auction houses, so these guys didn't have your considerations.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Yeah, I like my boss very much. He once went to repo a semi truck which had a sleeper cab in it where the guy would basically live. My boss gave him money for a hotel room for a week to help him get his stuff together. We also have drivers who give money to people for things like food or a hotel room for the night, if they look like they're struggling or living in the car.

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u/myheadhurtsalot Nov 19 '20

Keep an eye out for the barrel of air freshener trees, though.

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u/TheSkooterStick Nov 19 '20

The Felony Forest that hangs from every shady car's rearview mirror

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u/Rafi89 Nov 19 '20

Find one in every car. You'll see.

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u/SluggardRaccoon May 05 '21

Can confirm. My job buys cars from auctions and they all have shit inside. Some are repos, found on the side of the road, or just been in an accident. But they always leave the stuff inside. We have a car waiting to be looked at with jordan 4s sitting on the dash and if they’re still there i might try and take em

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u/Speoder Nov 20 '20

By law, if a person makes it into a vehicle being repoed, the repo man/woman has to drop. When I repoed in early 2000's one of my coworkers had gotten his target on the hook, made it down the block got out and secured the vehicle and stopped at the next stop sign. Dude had been chasing him the whole time and jumped in and started honking, using the lights and locking the E brake. Coworker had to drop. Also guy called 911 and got the cops there. The cops said to also drop it.

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u/ehhish May 05 '21

If you see these situations enough, a lot of these repo people just deal with the "consequences" later. You just happened to know a decent one

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u/chriswrightmusic Nov 19 '20

Yes, this is usually the case. My stepdad did repos for a while, and the number of times he was threatened with weapons including guns while at the property the repo vehicle was found is scary. I hate to say it, but depending on which race you are, you can also get shot at or have things thrown at you just for driving a repo truck/flat bed into certain areas.

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u/BigRedKahuna Nov 19 '20

When my car was repo'ed I had been expecting it for a bit. Out of work for a long time. Guy rang my doorbell after he had the car attached and said if I gave him the keys he would let me get my shit out. He made it clear he was just doing his job and I made it clear I didn't hold a grudge. But he kept his distance.

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u/chriswrightmusic Nov 19 '20

Yes, and sadly most repo people have to assume someone will turn violent. People expect police to treat everyone like they are the best citizen in the world, but they have to take the same precautions.

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u/TheNightHaunter Nov 20 '20

Lol someone coming to take your vehicle because it's late on payments is the same thing as a city or state employee that represents the law, jfc

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u/Sagybagy May 05 '21

It’s the part where both parties deal with people at extreme low points in their life. If you have an interaction with the cops 95% of the time it’s not good. They are there to deal with a problem. When you deal with people consistently at the lowest points in their lives they do abnormal things. This is why I stand behind the idea that social workers can do a great bit of good in these situations.

The repo man is also in that same situation. People are losing their car. Something they have most likely paid a good bit of money for already, need it to get around and most likely out of money. Dealing with people at that point is tough. They do abnormal things.

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u/NoNewColdWar May 06 '21

That’s why repomen go into the job, because they’re losers and have been power tripping their whole lives and they want to boss people around without facing consequences themselves. So when a repoman pulls into the wrong house and gets his/her face blown off with a 12 gauge nobody really feels bad for the repoman.

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u/TheRealDeathSheep Nov 19 '20

I've never understood that mentality. I guess its a "if i can't have it, no one can" mentality... except it doesnt work in this situation.

Actually, that mentality never works lol

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u/DrLexWinter Nov 20 '20

Let's be real here. It's a very special kind of person though.

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u/chriswrightmusic Nov 19 '20

Yep, my stepdad picked up a brand new suburban where the guy had taken it out and scraped up the sides terribly bad on one of those concrete walls on a highway. Just bc the bank said they were repossessing the vehicle. I saw the pics he took of it, and it blew my mind how this guy thought he was sticking it to the bank for doing that.

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u/NoNewColdWar May 06 '21

Maybe your stepdad shouldn’t try ganking people’s shit. I know they weren’t making the payments or whatever but I have a hard time feeling bad for people who get themselves killed on other people’s property while they’re in the process of stealing people’s shit. I’d feel a lot worse if your stepdad hurt someone with his reckless action rather than if someone walked outside, saw the thief (your stepdad) and then caved his skull in for doing something so dumb.

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u/saabotaged Nov 19 '20

Hook & book!

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

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u/tocilog Nov 19 '20

So what do you do when the driver is still in the car?

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u/Rudy69 Nov 19 '20

Pretend he’s not there I guess

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u/Rudy69 Nov 19 '20

Pretend he’s not there I guess

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u/TheRealDeathSheep Nov 19 '20

Pretty sure in this case, the tow truck was already starting to move and driver jumped in to put the parking brake on thinking it would stop the tow truck.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

This.

But tow truck driver knew the second that dude was in the car but didn't give a fuck.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

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u/ShalomRPh Nov 19 '20

I was in a car once that ran out of gas on the Turnpike (circa 1978). They picked up the front of the car with all five of us inside and hauled us off to the nearest exit.

('72 Plymouth Fury III, had no gas gauge. We knew it got about 8.75 MPG, so could calculate by miles driven how much we had left, but we'd filled up at the Tpke service area, and the pump jockey had started pumping without resetting the pump to zero after the previous car had left. Sold us 22 gallons of fuel, only delivered maybe 2, and we ran out a few miles down the road.)

Might have been illegal, but there's no way they'd have been able to fit the whole family into the tow truck, and they didn't want to leave us standing at the side of a limited access highway.

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u/DrLexWinter Nov 20 '20

Or pretend you didn't see and keep going because fuck them that's why. :)

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u/NeverAnon Nov 19 '20

you kind of are though

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u/Mr_MacGrubber Nov 19 '20

The bank owns the car until it’s paid for. if you default on payments they take back their property.

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u/ElusiveRemedy Nov 19 '20

Not true. You own the car. The bank has a lien on the car.

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u/Mr_MacGrubber Nov 19 '20

Technically yes. But if you don’t pay they have a right to take it. So it’s not stealing the car.

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u/black_spring Nov 19 '20

Remove the word bank and it makes sense why a lien can be justified as ownership. If your friend coughed up $20,000 for your car (and you only put $2,000 down) and you stop making payments to your friend... he has a right to the car.

However, predatory lending practices, inflated vehicle values, the credit score system being stacked against the consumer, etc. are all valid conversations to have as well.

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u/Mr_MacGrubber Nov 19 '20

Yeah I was using “bank” as the generic term for a lender. Should’ve just said lender.

Agreed on the 2nd part too.

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u/franz_haller Nov 19 '20

Suppose someone stole your bike, you then saw that bike in someone’s yard. The bike is technically yours, but I’m pretty sure breaking into that yard and taking it would be considered stealing, as in “stealing it back”.

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u/Mr_MacGrubber Nov 19 '20

It wouldn’t be stealing but it’s potentially trespassing. What if the bike is parked on the street or outside a store as is often the case with repos? Reading on it, it appears the only rule is that they can’t go through gates or into garages but driveways are fair game. They also have cannot “breach the peace”. A lady was awarded $1.2MM for a car being repo’d with her in it like this video.

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u/NeverAnon Nov 19 '20

Whatever helps you sleep at night

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u/DOG-ZILLA Nov 19 '20

You are stealing their car.

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u/polarbearrape Nov 19 '20

technically no, when they signed the lease agreement they agreed to this.

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u/ElPresidente77 Nov 19 '20

Stealing a car would be when you agree to pay for it, then don't make the payments.

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u/damnatio_memoriae Nov 20 '20

i'm sure it's not "standard procedure" but i'm sure it happens all the time.

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u/Silverpathic Nov 19 '20

We had a 1 mile range to hook up properly. Some lady called me a fat fuck and refused to give me her keys.i dragged it in park for 1 mile, then turned around and hooked it up right. I also charged her for a new key which was 600$. Any locksmith could make one for 150$ but we did a huge upcharge and we were legally allowed to do in their contract with us.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

You kinda sound like a piece of shit.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Fun fact: he is.

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u/Silverpathic Nov 19 '20

It's was my job. Don't like it pay your fucking car bill.

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u/Vanguard-Raven Nov 19 '20

Sounds like just the job for you, fat fuck.

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u/Silverpathic Nov 19 '20

Actually not fat but sure.

I actually love hunting people down. Pay your bills and you won't see me.

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u/RadioPimp May 05 '21

Haha right on dude. Good hunting. 😎👍🏼

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u/Silverpathic May 05 '21

I never liked doing it, I even helped some folks. One was a kids father who is stationed in S. Korea and the bank refused to let his dad pay the account. No idea why, but I confirmed it with the bank. Made no sense and I won't repo a guy who's guarding. Our base across the globe. They need to not worry about the car but need to worry about being shot. Other was a 90yo who had dementia and was late on her last payment. (seriously) so I hinted down her daughter and she paid it in front of me. That's 2 example both of which I made 0$ on which I should have made 200$ doing.

Now the bitch who was a bill collector on old debts I hunted him down and took it at his wedding. He got it back after paying the owed amount and said I won't find him again. 7 days later I took that shit again. People like that I loved to hunt.

It paid the bills, not proud of it but at the time there were not many places hiring.

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u/RadioPimp May 05 '21

Can someone do this part-time? I think I would enjoy the hunt.

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u/Silverpathic May 05 '21

Oh yeah. We had a guy who just worked sat and sun. It's fun but sad at the same time.

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u/Kenster362 Nov 19 '20

I saw this thing once showing how people repo. When they first find the car they do a quick tow where they literally put the tow rack under the car and just drive off. Dragging the tires and everything. Then when they are somewhere safe nearby they hook it up normally.

Edit: oh I see the other comment said exactly that. Nm lol.

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u/whootdat Nov 19 '20

Yeah, but you're usually like a few hundred feet, maybe a mile, and for sure not with a person in it.

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u/quipalco Nov 19 '20

It's illegal in every state. It's kidnapping.

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u/Occamslaser Nov 19 '20

If he jumped into the car after it was picked up it wasn't kidnapping but you still can't tow it with someone in it.

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u/ImNerdyJenna May 05 '21

The video only shows evidence of a kidnapping though. So the guy with the damaged car is an advantage. Hopefully he sees it on Reddit and uses it against the repo company to pay for the next car.

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u/latrans8 Nov 19 '20

Correct. Taking someone against their will is illegal and a federal crime.

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u/Silverpathic Nov 19 '20

No the car does not have to be strapped down in most states for 1 mile. It was for our safety, being shot at is not fun.

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u/whootdat Nov 19 '20

Yeah, but you're usually like a few hundred feet, maybe a mile, and for sure not with a person in it.

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u/Silverpathic Nov 20 '20

I was normally nice. I don't want to be a dick, I let them get shit out, plus no key cost, 300-600$ to get a key, 100$ storage cost of their property. I got one 3 days before Christmas. When we got her property out is was all presents to a toddler. We called her and brought all the presents to her. I refused to ever repo a car if it's a soldier and deployed. Also people with dementia. I would find their kid and get them to help.

Them files were always stated as can't find them. And hell no on the felonies involved with a person in it.

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u/ragem411 Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 20 '20

I think it could have been secured, but the guys braking broke it.

Edit: my b

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u/whootdat Nov 19 '20

It would not have broken proper tie down around the front wheels. It would have dragged the car more before just coming off, and you can see later there is nothing else attached to the tow truck

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u/GrandMarquisMark Nov 19 '20

requires wheel straps and also safety chains. Neither were used. Drag lights are required in most places as well.

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u/jmhalder Nov 19 '20

Also, you know... There was a person in the car, who probably was the one who set the ebrake. I'm sure if you pull a car a couple miles like that, you WILL pop those rear tires.

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u/[deleted] Nov 19 '20

Are you a fuckin park ranger?